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Hey I'm new so forgive me if this thread exists and I just couldn't find it.

My band has been gigging a lot more reciently and as a new bassplayer, I am still trying to sort out my set up for gigging. I have a GP10b for the effects which has a lot of interesting effects in stereo. I am wondering, in particular because I would like to start learning how to make some dubstep "woob woob" noises and other more outlandish effects, how many of you guys run in stereo and how do you do it?

I guess I could just hand two leads from the effects processor to the sound guy. But then why do I have an amp? On the other hand, I could buy another amp, and have two amps, one on either side of the stage. What is the skinny on this? How many of you use stereo? How useful is it for creating sonic mayhem (my effects processor has a "pan" function on the tremello, for shooting the sound back and forth to left and right pan...[i]that[/i] sounds like it has potential for exploiting the art medium that is big stacks of very low frequency speakers).

Any thoughts or advice on how to get funky with stereo?

Cheers!

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Plug into your Multi-FX box, then L&R leads out to a stereo power amp - this will give you seperate feeds & volumes to left & right, but you'll need to have suitable cabs to match impedence & get the best out of the amp. The Multi-FX is doing all the work of a pre-amp in this case.

G.

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Depends how you hear it.

You could have a certain sound feed to a amp/cab and and another to another amp and cab but what does this really give you?
If you send two signals to the P.A ..assuming he has two channels for you... then what controls the pan ?? and you could end up with bass out one side only..??
As for monitors with no amp... has the P.A got two mixes for you..??

This is all pretty specialist stuff and almost an indulgence beyond any real gain.
You'd have to have a very good relationship with the engr to go this route... which means budget and influence, tbh.
No one else is really going to bother.

A lot of time and money to what end..?? only you can say.

I used to run stereo for a bi-amp system but it cost me a lot of power for a tad of seperation..
back to mono/bridged now..far easier for what I want/need and the amp has been retired to rehearsal mode anyway.

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The best route for stereo is to put it through the pa but it will need to be a good one, with big subs and lots of power. Make sure the guy with the PA knows you want stereo and which is left & right (coloured tape is your friend here).

Regarding your stage amp, low volumes would be the key to getting the effects you desire and just pick one channel to stick through it.

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I have a stereo set up if I expect to be using chorus or delays. It's nice to feel enveloped by the stereo field but when I've used it in a band setting, the lower frequencies have tended to sound a bit muddy in the onstage mix and its difficult to pitch. Better to have a mono stage for lows (say below 300hz) and stereo for everything above that.

Low volumes on stage are great for monitoring AND TIMING. But getting the drummer to turn down can be difficult at times.

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My Guitar player plays in stereo using two amps either side like you mentioned. You are right in thinking that it will make effects sound amazing but the reality for bass players is that it does sound better mono. We play a lot of d'n'b and so I'm using a lot of effects too and you get the most out of the bass by keeping it central..this is not to say you can't still have two amps and many cabs!

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I too have played in Stereo quite a lot. As Kiwi has said, there is something very cool about having stereo bass effects all around ya lug'oles. - Multi-tap tempo matched delays and rich reverbs on melody and chordal work YUM!

I'd send a stereo signal out to the PA and with as much detail as possible for the enginner, let them get on with the front of house sound.

As for muddy lows, a wet/dry mix is essential and typically, I'd keep my choruses and other modulations below 25% OR use an effect that allows you to only treat the higher frequencies leaving the lows intact. This helps a lot.

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Yes, I should have said the same thing but have been a little distracted today. The stereo, wet highs, mono dry lows worked for John Entwhistle too. But its a bugger to load/unload unless a one cab solution is available with separate ins.

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[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1365978208' post='2046948']
Yes, I should have said the same thing but have been a little distracted today. The stereo, wet highs, mono dry lows worked for John Entwhistle too. But its a bugger to load/unload unless a one cab solution is available with separate ins.
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The only cab I could think of was the Trace BFC - and that wasn't an easy schlepp ha!

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There was a 410 cab on here a long time ago that had two 10" cones wired to separate outputs. I nearly bought it as it could have sounded good on a sub woofer. But I was looking for something smaller at the time.

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