karlfer Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) Ok,I decided to ask here rather than in the Tech bit, hoping for as big and audience as possible. My basses sound good in the mix of the band (basses, not playing ) however, I do a lead part in "You really got me" and I do about 40 seconds of Jaco's version of Blackbird followed by barre chords intro to "Doctor Doctor" ( quiet, the punters love the numbers! ). The bass just does not sound really powerful and in your face when I do these parts despite it being heard very well in the mix. I currently do not use any pedals/effects of any kind. Is there some kind of pedal that will just give me that extra decibel, or is it just turn amp up then back down again? Answers here and not on a postcard please. Thanks in advance peeps. Karl. Edited April 21, 2013 by karlfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapbassSteve Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 MXR micro amps are great, though I'd be inclined to use a compressor or EQ pedal with the gain turned up a bit instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) Coupla approaches among many: * Buy an eq pedal*. Push up the mids. Stomp it on for your solos. * Boost pedal - [i]loads [/i]around. Some offer lots of adjustable parameters, some are just one knob, turn it up or down. Some boosters are 'transparent' - ie they don't change your 'tone' just make it louder. Or there are other boost pedals which are 'coloured' - e.g. they might add a bit of 'grunt' or distortion. Among various pedals, EHX also make (made) a thing called the Mole (one-knob solution) designed for bass. Never tried it, but someone here might have. [size=3]* Beaten to it by SlapbassSteve[/size] Edited April 21, 2013 by skankdelvar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1366547879' post='2053782']...Is there some kind of pedal that will just give me that extra decibel, or is it just turn amp up then back down again?...[/quote] Good afternoon, Karl... Being something of a minimalist, myself, I think I would adopt the 'volume knob' approach, starting the set with the volume backed off by about 20%, and turning up to full for the solo spots. One could also 'dig in' a tad harder, which can be increase enough, sometimes. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziphoblat Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I've always found that backing off my neck pickup a little bit for solo sections gives me the extra push that I need personally, but that's only a viable option if you ordinarily play with both pickups up full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I never keep the dials all the way for this reason. It's good to have headroom when you need a boost. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjas Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1366556669' post='2053958'] I never keep the dials all the way for this reason. It's good to have headroom when you need a boost. . [/quote] Yep, this is what I do, along with hitting the strings a little harder when needed. Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 If you preferred a pedal, how about a Behringer BDI-21? Cheap and effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertbass Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) +1 to the graphic EQ. Use one myself for this very purpose. A Behringer BEQ700 to be precise. Edited April 21, 2013 by bertbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Lots of food for thought folks, I thank you from the bottom of my wallet . Research on pedals methinks. Thanks again lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1366552586' post='2053865'] Good afternoon, Karl... Being something of a minimalist, myself, I think I would adopt the 'volume knob' approach, starting the set with the volume backed off by about 20%, and turning up to full for the solo spots. One could also 'dig in' a tad harder, which can be increase enough, sometimes. Hope this helps. [/quote] Here's your solution and it won't cost you a penny. He means the vol knob on your bass not the amp. Just turn your bass's vol down a bit, turn the amp up a bit to get your regular level. When your solo bits come up just turn your bass's vol knob up. Easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 For me I`d go the equaliser route, purely as I`d be unlikely to be able to gauge the volume control on the bass accurately. Plus, frequency here I think is the key - adding those mids in will really helps with the strength of sound, make it sound much more aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Many thanks folks, but this rather seems to have helped [URL=http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Altdorfer/media/DSCF0196_zps8d863005.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q693/Karl_Altdorfer/DSCF0196_zps8d863005.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsieblue Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Karl, Two things: 1 - They let you do solo's?? - and 40 seconds worth??? 2 - Stunning bass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 [quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1367182587' post='2062382'] Karl, Two things: 1 - They let you do solo's?? - and 40 seconds worth??? 2 - Stunning bass... [/quote] Cheers Martyn, it is bloody amazing. AND I'm up to 1.5 minutes now with a Billy Sheehan piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I get a short solo in two bands, one has punters asking for slap (its in Play That Funky Music) and so up goes the treble control on the 'Ray, the other is an original piece with a Stanley Clarkesque type break, up goes the mid control. That's it, volume stays the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 This is another of those questions that is impossible to answer definitively without actually hearing the piece. Everyone is suggesting a pedal, or having a bit of volume in reserve - these are fine suggestions and may well work, but let's not overlook the 'old fashioned way'... have a word with the rest of your band and see if they can't back it off a bit while you're playing your 'lead part'. 'Dynamics' could be your friend here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Respect Steve, I know some of your CV. Cheers 4 Strings, whilst I don't slap, some of what you are saying is working out with this phenominal bass. I tend to use chords or tapping on the solo parts but the actives on this bass just make it so easy to put the final part of eq boost to do what I need. Must admit, the lead part rather than the solo would benefit from the othe ham fists backing off just a tad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricycle Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 +1 for EQ pedal for clean boost on choruses and what not. Works a treat. Picked mine up off here pretty cheap, and i use it lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedave Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I use a Zvex Super Hard On. But then I enjoy playing through dirty valve amps . If you're handy with soldering have a look on here. http://shop.pedalparts.co.uk/Boner_Boost_Kit/p847124_6343638.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 [quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1367188236' post='2062457'] This is another of those questions that is impossible to answer definitively without actually hearing the piece. Everyone is suggesting a pedal, or having a bit of volume in reserve - these are fine suggestions and may well work, but let's not overlook the 'old fashioned way'... have a word with the rest of your band and see if they can't back it off a bit while you're playing your 'lead part'. 'Dynamics' could be your friend here. [/quote] This..... is all that is required... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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