Count Bassy Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Like most guitarists, our likes it loud, even when practising in our dining room. Everything else then gets loder to compansate, so our practises get pretty loud. Thing is that at times when it the volume peaks, or it may be particular notes, I feel myself going dizzly for a couple of seconds, like I've stood up to quickly. Obviously ear plugs is an answer that I'll be looking into, but in the meantime I'm curious if anyone else suffers this. For information I have a grommet in one ear (not the plastacine dog), which might not help the situation. Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Funk Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Yeah, I sometimes get a bit dizzy too. I sometimes lean against my rig so that I don't fall down or pass out. I heard that Jason Newstead once passed out at an early Metallica gig when he was overwhelmed by the heat and the volume. Probably bollocks but still an amusing story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashevans09 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Don't know if it fits with you but I got that a while ago, just random dizzyness that got progressively worse - turned out to be Labyrinthitis. Had it a couple times since then, and I found when it starts up loud noises don't help... I could be talking out my arse here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I get this quite a lot – when I’m gigging or practising with a loud rig behind me flapping my trousers all over the place my eyeballs have a tendency to resonate inside their sockets so everything goes blurry and it makes me dizzy. I quite like it It’s funny trying to read what patch I’ve got selected on my Pod because you can’t read sh*t unless it’s in foot-high writing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 You're not alone. I used to get this. The answer actually is not earplugs but to turn your volume down (and that of your band) and let a PA do the work. Your problem is going to be convincing your guitarist that volume knobs can rotate anti clockwise. If you manage to do this, please post how you did it in the Wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdragon Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 [quote name='benwhiteuk' post='210344' date='Jun 1 2008, 12:26 AM']I get this quite a lot – when I’m gigging or practising with a loud rig behind me flapping my trousers all over the place my eyeballs have a tendency to resonate inside their sockets so everything goes blurry and it makes me dizzy. I quite like it It’s funny trying to read what patch I’ve got selected on my Pod because you can’t read sh*t unless it’s in foot-high writing [/quote] What kind of volume are you talking about here? for instance i use a Hartke 350watt and have never gone above four on the volume dial. i have a feeling you are talking venues a bit bigger than pubs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) [quote name='beerdragon' post='210462' date='Jun 1 2008, 12:23 PM']What kind of volume are you talking about here? for instance i use a Hartke 350watt and have never gone above four on the volume dial. i have a feeling you are talking venues a bit bigger than pubs though.[/quote] Possibly, but not necessarily. You can get stuck in a bass trap where the lower frequencies are dramatically exaggerated. I’ve had it when I’ve been practising with a 150W Fender combo. EDIT: It generally happens when I’ve got my Ampeg rig cranked a bit though Edited June 1, 2008 by benwhiteuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithless Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 [quote name='The Funk' post='210330' date='Jun 1 2008, 01:57 AM']Yeah, I sometimes get a bit dizzy too. I sometimes lean against my rig so that I don't fall down or pass out. I heard that Jason Newstead once passed out at an early Metallica gig when he was overwhelmed by the heat and the volume. Probably bollocks but still an amusing story.[/quote] That's all true about Jason. It was one of his first gigs with Tallica. It's said, he passed out just because of the heat, but maybe volume done it's job also.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odub Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Never heard of this, but I'm guessing its the inner ear thats being vibrated and thus throwing off balance. Thats pretty loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Had something similar twice. Once I was walking to the bog while our harmonica player was soundchecking - sudden burst of feedback through the PA stopped me in my tracks and sat me on my arse - nothing I could do to stay upright. 2nd time was monitor feedback at a small gig - not partic high volume. Same deal - I fell backwards into the drumkit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozbass Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I've experienced some dizzyness, especially playing for very loud rock bands - crashing cymbals (at head height and often very close proximity for bassplayers!) were a trigger, high-pitched harmonica notes too. As with benwhiteuk, I quite liked it too - 'first few times were a bit disconcerting but I started to find it quite cool (all this was some years ago, not sure I'd be too keen now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Yeah i've had this once, it was a roasting hot day plus no air con in the room. It was the amplified cymbals that did it... felt like my whole brain was shaking around and like I was gonna drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor_of_the_bass Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 We did a gig on a ferry moored right in the centre of the Mersey last November.....! Not so much dizzy but trying to stand upright and not fall over was a problem. Seriously, it might well be an inner ear problem. I'm currently being treated (ooer) for a persistent issue with my right ear which has caused a 75% loss of hearing. I'd consult your GP in the first instance - then get referred to an ENT specialist. My problem stems from some kind of recurrent infection which may have been related to exposure to high sound pressure levels. My former main band (The One Eyed Cats - Muppet may know of them) had a very loud drummer and 4 piece brass section and I think constant gigging (without ear protection) was the cause of this. The worst issue I had was the inability to pitch; for example, I'd be playing a C - I'd then go to play a G and it sounded like a G flat - f*cking nightmare that was. Never really had any major dizziness though. Cheers Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I experianced this in my early days of playing and found it to be down to volumn. Had that same sensation then passed out for several seconds at a stadium gig where I was pretty close to one of the PA towers. When I came round again I was still standing although my fingures had stopped moving. Get some quality ear plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 [quote name='Dr.Dave' post='210539' date='Jun 1 2008, 02:54 PM']Once I was walking to the bog while our harmonica player was soundchecking - sudden burst of feedback through the PA stopped me in my tracks and sat me on my arse - nothing I could do to stay upright.[/quote] Yes, many years ago I played with a Harmonica player.. certain notes he 'played' (- and I put that in inverted commas as it was a right ruddy racket) had me completely off balance! It felt a littl ebit like I had got up really quickly and had gotten light headed.. Know what I mean? - Made my vision blur and I would feel disorientated briefly as he blasted out the god aweful noise. Had I have been wearing ear plugs I suspect I would have been fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdragon Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 [quote name='dood' post='212563' date='Jun 4 2008, 03:57 PM']Yes, many years ago I played with a Harmonica player.. certain notes he 'played' (- and I put that in inverted commas as it was a right ruddy racket) had me completely off balance! It felt a littl ebit like I had got up really quickly and had gotten light headed.. Know what I mean? - Made my vision blur and I would feel disorientated briefly as he blasted out the god aweful noise. Had I have been wearing ear plugs I suspect I would have been fine.[/quote] I saw Nine below zero supporting the Who a long while back but i can still hear the Harmonica. i swear it was louder than Townsend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Thank god it's not just me then. Thought it might have been some sort of noise related epilepsy thing. Yup I get it, but only occasionally and on certain frequencies - cymbals in particular can 'floor' me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradfusion Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Re-opening this one, I get this dizzyness ALOT nowadays, it started years ago and was'nt too bad at first but now I need to use a stool to prop against for alost every gig. Crash symbols drive my ears crazy and I physically get a jolt if I'm too near a loud crash, some notes do it as well, mostly very loud guitar but some bass notes too. Its a real pain and I suspect some damage has been done to my ears already from 20+ years of loud bands and never wearing any ear plugs in case I might be laughed at... the ususal !! I've been to an ENT specialist and he said my ears seem to be in decent enough shape considering, but recommended protecting them from now on, so laughing aside I'm on the hunt for some good musicians ear plugs, any recommendations appreciated.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-ic Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Certain shops of spec savers do earplugs. proped musician ones , i think for about £200. I went and asked because I want some for riding my bike as well! Also, gun shops do earplugs, but they are more for preventing any sound getting through. worth checking out all teh same because you might be able to drill a hole through them. (I havent tried this yet) Going deaf aint worth it. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Splayer Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 what were you playing DIZZY by vic reeves YOU SPIN ME ROUND by dead or alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybass Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 [quote name='ashevans09' post='210342' date='May 31 2008, 11:20 PM']Don't know if it fits with you but I got that a while ago, just random dizzyness that got progressively worse - turned out to be Labyrinthitis. Had it a couple times since then, and I found when it starts up loud noises don't help... I could be talking out my arse here though.[/quote] No, you are not. Be careful with volume..guitarists and cymbals n' snare drums are the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Once we were doing band practice in this little pub skittle alley, and we wondered (rather, our lead singer wondered) how our full stage rig would sound (we had our own PA), and it was so loud it made me go dizzy for a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylon Pilson Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 [quote name='Tradfusion' post='375252' date='Jan 9 2009, 03:10 PM']I'm on the hunt for some good musicians ear plugs, any recommendations appreciated.... [/quote] Okay, step one is to order some Elacin or Etymotic ER-20s. I bought mine from Audilo [url="http://www.audilo.co.uk/ER-20-High-Fidelity-Earplugs-Music-pr-16138.html"](link)[/url]. They cost about £10 and you'll have them in a few days. If you then decide you want something better, then you can pay ~£200 to get some custom-moulded ones. But the ER-20s will tide you over until then. S.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradfusion Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thanks for that S.P, I'll get some of those to start with...Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) There's a gorgeous story about Ted Nugent firing up his colossal touring rig in the studio, hitting [i]one[/i] apocalyptically loud chord, passing out and falling backwards to the ground. As he lay there unconscious, the feedback was bouncing his (semi-acoustic) guitar around on his chest. The engineers found this hugely amusing and left him in there for some time before grudgingly pulling the mains power. Edited January 10, 2009 by skankdelvar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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