Gully35 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Alright guys. I want to get an amp an cab that will get me somewhere in the ballpark of the ampeg stack. I need to transport it in my car so size and weight is an issue. I looked at the SVT pro 7 and 4x10 HE cab but it is still pretty bulky and heavy. What about a Gallien Krueger 700rbII or an Ashdown ABM evo III or little mark amp? If I could get away with a 2x10cab that would be great! I just bought a Vintage Microtubes to help along with achieving ampeg tones. All suggestions are welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Clean cab, Sansamp VT, power amp. SVT sound, portable, limitless headroom as determined by the cab and amp part. I'd suggest a Barefaced cab opf appropriate size and a Peavey IPR power amp to go with the VT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I think Mr Foxens suggestions are as near to the sound you want, in a lightweight set-up, as you can get. Maybe hold on until the VT DI comes out, so that should you do gigs with FOH, and you`re ok with doing so, just DI to desk, and get your sound from the monitors - always helps to have this option, and saves carrying even the lightweight set-up recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully35 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 I bought the vintage microtubes over the Sansamp VT! I also bought a radial J48 a couple of months ago for a DI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) The Ampeg Micro VR is supposed to offer similar sounds to the VT Bass, and the SVT210AV cabs are like mini quarter SVT810s. Amp and cabs are light as a feather and pretty cheap too! Should be plenty loud enough for pub gigs. (random image from google, not mine) Edited May 11, 2013 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully35 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 Did you not experience farting issues when adding a 2nd cab? Looks really cool by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Cant speak highly enough of my bass terror and obc 410 Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully35 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 It's for playing weddings. I was just looking at a little mark iii and a tc electronics rs410 or 2 rs210. I was hoping to use the vintage microtubes to make it sound a bit more ampeggy. The SVT 410HE is heavier than the rs410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkin Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 [quote name='Gully35' timestamp='1368297265' post='2075469'] Did you not experience farting issues when adding a 2nd cab? [/quote] Why would adding a 2nd cab make it fart?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1368295611' post='2075444'] The Ampeg Micro VR is supposed to offer similar sounds to the VT Bass, and the SVT210AV cabs are like mini quarter SVT810s. Amp and cabs are light as a feather and pretty cheap too! Should be plenty loud enough for pub gigs. (random image from google, not mine) [/quote][quote name='barkin' timestamp='1368300517' post='2075526'] Why would adding a 2nd cab make it fart?? [/quote] I did the two ampeg svt210 things for a while does the sound of the big 810 well on budget while saving weight and space. If you have the time and spare cash is get the barefaced 69er as its supposed to clone the sound only with better performance and lighter and smaller. As far as head or amp goes. Get your self either a GB shuttle or MB LMtube, the preamp tube is going to give you the harmonic distortion, the cb will give you the overall colour, and the microtubes will give you any drive you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) Having played an SVT CL + 810 back in the day and also having done the Tech-21 VT Bass and power amp thing rather more recently, I'd go with Mr. Foxen's suggestion. The VT Bass is one of, if not THE best SVT sim out there. IMHO. Edited May 11, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully35 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 Thanks for the suggestions. I considered the VT bass, but I actually preferred the sound of the microtubes vintage; hence why I bought it. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully35 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1368301122' post='2075538'] I did the two ampeg svt210 things for a while does the sound of the big 810 well on budget while saving weight and space. If you have the time and spare cash is get the barefaced 69er as its supposed to clone the sound only with better performance and lighter and smaller. As far as head or amp goes. Get your self either a GB shuttle or MB LMtube, the preamp tube is going to give you the harmonic distortion, the cb will give you the overall colour, and the microtubes will give you any drive you want. [/quote] Is the micro VR with 210av x 2No. Loud enough to cope with a drummer and 2 guitarists? That would be a good option If it was. I'm kind of swaying towards a Markbass Little Mark iii. I'm struggling to find 2 good quality 2x10 cabs to pair with it. Easier for me to move around than a 4x10. The markbass cabs seem to get bad press online, plus they are pretty expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I think re Markbass cabs, the best time to be objective about them is when they are being used in a band situation. On their own I think they are a bit middy, and not deep enough sounding, but every time I`ve heard them, prior to buying I should point out, in a band I thought they sounded great. Which is why I went Markbass. The 210AV cabs are great cabs, sound really nice, but being quite thin I don`t know how they`d hold out - if deep lows are your thing I wouldn`t expect them to be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Gully35' timestamp='1368302785' post='2075563'] I considered the VT bass, but I actually preferred the sound of the microtubes vintage; hence why I bought it. :-) [/quote] Ah yes, missed that earlier in the thread. D'oh. Edited May 12, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I just wouldn't bother. You'll never be able to properly replicate the sound you have in your head. The only reason I've ever used Ampeg gear is because it looks awesome and, yeah sounds good, but never really achieved what I wanted out of a bass rig. Just go out there and try everything you can. Eventually you'll settle on something you like! Why do you need a 'stack' anyway? Markbass combos sound great, weigh nothing and are furiously loud. If you need to go louder, the room should have a PA that you can plug into. Even the 1x15 conbos have a tiny footprint. And if you did want to expand there's a ready supply of second hand cabs floating about. Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Not sure the Micro 210 cabs are upto a loud band, tbh...even paired up I recently heard the rig thru an SG bass so you would expect the sound to be anti clean... but instead it didn't sound like it was handling it at all well and well beyond an OD sound. I'd say it was struggling..tbh. Quite liked the Portaflex cabs at low volume tho... if they amped up better then I'd suggest that as a good combination. Never been a fan of Ampeg cabs, traditionally but I have a few friends who like the HLF..as heavy as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 As for good 2x10 cabs I can recommend the TC Electronic RS210's. Nice, tall stack, not too heavy, very sensitive (ie. loud for the wattage in), and ample bottom end for virtually anyone. You've made a good choice with the Darkglass, it's a complete class above the VT bass IMHO and, yes, I have owned both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 To be honest, since I used an Ampeg rig back in the day I've been trying to replicate 'that' sound. Various sims and pedals can get you very close, but there's nothing like the visceral experience of a real fridge behind you. I've kind of accepted that if I want that sound again the only way to get it is to buy (and haul) another Ampeg rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully35 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Yeah I seen those rs210's. I was interested in them. The rs410's are really cheap at the minute, but I think 2 rs210's would be a easy to lug around and get in my Peugeot 308. I preferred the sound of the vintage microtubes. I was going to wait and get a VT bass DI until I heard the microtubes, so bought it and a radial J48 instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully35 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1368371020' post='2076182'] I just wouldn't bother. You'll never be able to properly replicate the sound you have in your head. The only reason I've ever used Ampeg gear is because it looks awesome and, yeah sounds good, but never really achieved what I wanted out of a bass rig. Just go out there and try everything you can. Eventually you'll settle on something you like! Why do you need a 'stack' anyway? Markbass combos sound great, weigh nothing and are furiously loud. If you need to go louder, the room should have a PA that you can plug into. Even the 1x15 conbos have a tiny footprint. And if you did want to expand there's a ready supply of second hand cabs floating about. Truckstop [/quote] I always loved the sound of Tim Slades jazz through his Ampeg SVT stack when we played gigs with Mohair. I guess the SVT 7 pro and HE410 would kind of get me there but it's still pretty big and heavy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgbass Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 If I were to down size, I've got the head now. TC Electronic RH450 head. The scaled down cab would be a TC E. cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperbob 2002 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 My Harte lh1000 and hydrive 4x 10 can sound vintage - as long as you switch off the tweeter. Warm as a very warm thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 LMIII and BF Super 15. Doesn't get a lot more vintage than that, especially with a Precision. Add in your favourite VT sim and Robert is your mother's brother. Weight of entire stack - 56lb. However, the cab is still a 2x15 when all is said and done, so is bulky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 [quote name='Gully35' timestamp='1368362713' post='2076064'] Is the micro VR with 210av x 2No. Loud enough to cope with a drummer and 2 guitarists? That would be a good option If it was. I'm kind of swaying towards a Markbass Little Mark iii. I'm struggling to find 2 good quality 2x10 cabs to pair with it. Easier for me to move around than a 4x10. The markbass cabs seem to get bad press online, plus they are pretty expensive. [/quote] http://youtu.be/bVssp9UXZ9w Seems fine to me, and that's only one. Benefits from more watts stuck into it. One of the best cheap cabs you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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