WITHDRAWN: Steinberger XL-2A (Immaculate Condition) £1750

[RichMcGill]

Hi there, is the XL2 still for sale for cash?

[sblueplanet]

Have you got yourself yet another Berger?

[cloudburst]

Too much is never enough :-)

CB

[lowregisterhead]

I was watching Only Fools And Horses yesterday (an episode called Stage Fright) and the bass player in the cabaret band backing Del Boy's girlfriend Raquel was playing a Steinberger. Just thought I'd mention it!

[cloudburst]

OMG. Credibility crisis! :-)

Gary.

[EMG456]

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OMG. Credibility crisis! :-)

Gary.
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Don't knock the cabaret - me and my L2 did thousands of them in the 80's and 90's and I don't have a credibility gap.

Or maybe I just think I don't ...

Ed

[Stacker]

You bought my L2??

EDIT: hmm... maybe not. Guy who works between Edinburgh and Dublin, I think.

Edited August 14, 2013 by Stacker

[cloudburst]

Here's an "I'd like to sell my 'berger because I'd really like to buy that red Wal MkII 5 string" type bump.

CB

[Ashborygirl]

Forgive the slightly off topic question but is it right that Gibson have a number of containers in a car park that are filled with enough Steinberger parts to make several hundred new basses?

[cloudburst]

Not too sure about that. But one thing is certain - if they're making anything, sadly it won't be graphite XLs. :-)

CB

[Ashborygirl]

That's a crime really. I've owned a lot of high end basses & played even more and nothing made my jaw drop like the first time I played an XL2, someone will get sonic nirvana with this.

[EMG456]

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Forgive the slightly off topic question but is it right that Gibson have a number of containers in a car park that are filled with enough Steinberger parts to make several hundred new basses?
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Nope - it did exist but the container was emptied years ago. Andy Yakubic of www.steinbergerworld.com went along and helped them identify and sort all the stuff. Then we had a couple of years of the Epiphone/ MusicYo USA guitars and basses till the parts stock ran out.

There were no Ls or XLs during the MusicYo era and the moulds for these instruments were destroyed or lost at some point so cloudburst is correct - there will never be any new L or XL basses from Gibson/ Steinberger - we only have what already exists.

Ed

[Stacker]

Yeh, the moulds and plugs are long gone as Andy Yakubic states:-

'[i]The body & neck molds were nowhere to be found. I checked all the shelves and peeked in the other palettes. Not that they would be useful at that point anyways, since they'd be so degraded. I was more concerned about the plugs - these are the positive model that the negative molds are made from. They're usually made of metal because they're designed to last a long time. As long as you have the plug, you can make more molds pretty quickly. Steinberger always had many sets of molds working at any one time, all of which were copies from the original plugs.[/i]'

The man responsible for the demise of Gibson-era Steinberger is none other than Gibson's own fruit-cake CEO, Henry E. Juszkiewicz, a Harvard MBA who purportedly rescued Gibson from the Norlin days but who has created, it would seem, a company whose employees are, on the whole, thoroughly demoralised. This megalomaniac shut down Steinberger due to an 'open letter' to him from an employee that criticised him. Yes, that's right: he shut down Steinberger (and, I think, Tobias as well), all because of a few derogatory comments and home truths! So, with a 'Night of the Long Knives' such as this, one can clearly see all the Steinberger parts being junked into the trailer that's been referred to; the moulds/plugs probably hit the trash. How bitter can one man be, eh? Let's also not forget he is the clown who sanctioned the ridiculous (and poor selling) Firebird X.

And, for further Henry reading, here's a Google cache of employee comments from the companies review site Glassdoor:-

[url="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mJRsHvbPRbUJ:www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Gibson-Guitar-Reviews-E6869.htm+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a"]http://webcache.goog...lient=firefox-a[/url]

Edited October 15, 2013 by Stacker

[cloudburst]

Bump :-)

CB

[RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE]

Slightly confused here. Do Gibson run the synapse range of basses? Think I'll be keeping my xm3. At the moment it's tuned bead.apparently the neck is fine for this.
In the meantime , have a hamburger bump

[cloudburst]

Thanks for the bump. Have to confess I know nothing...not a thing...about the modern-day non-graphite instruments. They are a completely different ball game from the 80s instruments.

CB

[philw]

As far as I'm aware there's no Gibson involvement in any of Ned Steinberger's more recent instruments. The double basses (and cellos, violas and violins), the discontinued Synapse range and the new Radius instruments are entirely under Ned's control.

P

[cloudburst]

Bump.

Trades I'm interested in are:
Wal Mk2 (5 string), Yamaha BB5000, Veillette 5 string, Roland Jupiter 8

CB

Edited February 6, 2014 by cloudburst

[cloudburst]

Bump.

[cloudburst]

Bump and amended trade list. :-)

CB

[White Cloud]

A great example of the finest bass guitar design of all time.

BUMP.

[cloudburst]

Bump for another oddball addition to one of the most oddball trade-lists on Basschat. :-)

CB

Edited May 1, 2014 by cloudburst

[cloudburst]

Trade list edited once again. :-)

CB

[MELLOW]

Hi Cloudburst,

Any interrest for a trade with a Modulus Funk Unlimited 5 ? Black finish, all Bartolini. Maybe easier to sell...

Cheers.

[cloudburst]

Sorry. Thanks for the offer, but not my thing.

I'm not that bothered about selling the XL. More interested that it flushes out something in my trade list.

CB