wateroftyne Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Hello! Just posting this 'cos it's not very often a whole new brand of gear lands on the marketplace. [url="http://forgebass.com/"]http://forgebass.com/[/url] I saw an ad for them in a magazine when I was browsing at lunchtime. I know nowt about them other than what's on the site... Quote
crez5150 Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Not sure about the combo's but the head looks good Quote
warwickhunt Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Translate please... "three power amps controlled by a Closed-loop, Servo-controlled, Active Parametric Synthesis, Tri-amplified system" Isn't it a bit short sighted not to offer passive cabs and/or a stand alone amp head? Quote
ahpook Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 [quote name='Machines' post='211852' date='Jun 3 2008, 03:27 PM']Wow they look... expensive ![/quote] and ugly Quote
Ham fisted Bass Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) [quote name='ahpook' post='211863' date='Jun 3 2008, 03:37 PM']and ugly[/quote] I'm frightened.... [i]'We told bass players to abuse our prototypes'[/i].......... that's just wrong. Edited June 3, 2008 by Ham fisted Bass Quote
alexclaber Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='211861' date='Jun 3 2008, 03:35 PM']Translate please... "three power amps controlled by a Closed-loop, Servo-controlled, Active Parametric Synthesis, Tri-amplified system" Isn't it a bit short sighted not to offer passive cabs and/or a stand alone amp head?[/quote] No, because passive cabs and standalone heads are totally at odds with their whole concept. The closed-loop servo-controlled thing is presumably to reduce distortion in the lows by tracking the cone excursion. The active parametric synthesis could be referring to some EQ built into the cab. Tri-amplified means that lows, mids and highs have separate amps with active crossovers. This should give far greater SPL capability and lower distortion than a conventional rig. This looks very impressive. IP Technologies did a similar thing with biamped active cabs which seems to have failed to take off. Maybe this more conventional looking but actually even more cunning system has some potential. I bet it's really really loud. Alex Quote
99ster Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Why has that geezer on the website got an octopus wrapped around his head??? Quote
ahpook Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 [quote name='Ham fisted Bass' post='211875' date='Jun 3 2008, 03:54 PM']I'm frightened.... [i]'We told bass players to abuse our prototypes'[/i].......... that's just wrong.[/quote] i feel icky just having read that. Quote
Machines Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 [quote name='alexclaber' post='211877' date='Jun 3 2008, 03:56 PM']The closed-loop servo-controlled thing is presumably to reduce distortion in the lows by tracking the cone excursion. The active parametric synthesis could be referring to some EQ built into the cab. Tri-amplified means that lows, mids and highs have separate amps with active crossovers. This should give far greater SPL capability and lower distortion than a conventional rig.[/quote] Do they have flux capacitors too ?! . Quote
JakeBrownBass Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 These look.....interesting. Someone buy one and review it for all of us Jake Quote
wateroftyne Posted June 3, 2008 Author Posted June 3, 2008 Here's the pricing, shamlessly nicked from another forum: AXB Bass Tube Preamp Head: $1,049 List; $859 MAP AXB 2105 Active Tri-amped Bass Combo: $4,899 List; $4,159 MAP AXB 4108 Active Tri-amped Bass Enclosure: $4,199 List; $3,549 MAP AXB 2105 Active Tri-amped Bass Enclosure: $3,499 List; $2,999 MAP That's an expensive combo...! Quote
alexclaber Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='211914' date='Jun 3 2008, 04:29 PM']Here's the pricing...[/quote] How to kill a thread in half a dozen easy lines... Alex Quote
ahpook Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 [quote name='jake_tenfloors' post='211906' date='Jun 3 2008, 04:18 PM']Someone buy one and review it for all of us [/quote] i took one for the team on the ehx steel leather ! Quote
steve-soar Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Just got an email reply from Rick Bos of Forge, after about an hour! No European prices as yet, should have them by the end of July. Here are the U.S. prices; AXB preamp, Man $1049, list £859........AXB 4108 enclosure, Man $4199, list $3549.......AXB 2105 combo, Man $4899, list $4159....AXB 2105 enclosure, Man $3499, list $2999. (Man=manufacturer, list=shop prices) I've been put on a tab for any updates to be emailed. Quote
trent900 Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 So with $859 + $3549 = $4408 for the complete 2100W bad boy, am I right in thinking that with European distributor markups that's likely to be a good £3500? Wouldn't that price them more or less right out of the market? Quote
Ham fisted Bass Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 [quote name='trent900' post='212063' date='Jun 3 2008, 08:34 PM']So with $859 + $3549 = $4408 for the complete 2100W bad boy, am I right in thinking that with European distributor markups that's likely to be a good £3500? Wouldn't that price them more or less right out of the market?[/quote] Well to paraphrase WOT it's not every day a new manufacturer hits the market and whilst much fun has been had at the expense of Forge amplification; good luck to them. Quote
Mottlefeeder Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 The technology used in the pre-amp looks interesting. There is a mains input socket with no voltage selector, and it is good for 110-260 volts-ish, which suggests they are using a switchmode power supply for valve heaters, valve HT and the usual for the op-amps. That must be quite complicated. The use of separate led bargraphs for input level, post eq and post compression seems to be a bit of overkill. Most people use one and a switch. - Still it should keep the audience enthralled. Quote
Dood Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 I saw these advertised quite a while ago and really liked the idea. Many years ago as a young bass player I messed around with the idea of setting an ampliers inside a cabinet with some sort of preamp to help tune a 'response' into it. Laziness got the better of me and I never 'made it happen'. With the improvement of D class technology, it's possinle to create such a beast, yet not go too mad on the weight overhead. I see the Bergantino have cottoned on to the idea as well.. it's great to see that my daft idea way back when, wasn't so daft after all! BKElectronics still make the orginal model I planned to use all those years back [url="http://www.bkelec.com/Modules/mf450.htm"]http://www.bkelec.com/Modules/mf450.htm[/url] However, they also do this amazing little D Class amp. I used to own one but sold it to VelvetKevorkian, who I haven't seen on the forum for a while. I'm tempted to slip one in the back of my AGuilar GS-112.. which would make a monster little combo!!! [url="http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/ClassD/ClassD.htm"]http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/ClassD/ClassD.htm[/url] Quote
bass_ferret Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 EBS used to do a powered 3 way cab but its not in the range any more. Quote
Tee Posted June 9, 2008 Posted June 9, 2008 I wonder, will there be a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordi_La_Forge"]"Geordi La Forge"[/url] head or combo. Quote
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