Stacker Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Putting John Hall's bollox aside, I've had nine Ric 4000 series basses in my days. Some I liked, some I grew to detest but two I loved: the 4001CS (which I should not have sold!) and a'73 4001 toaster/chequerboard. Those two were sweet basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviedee Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1372489927' post='2126292'] It's strange I don't remember having any trouble at all switching to my first Ric last year, and not at all once I'd worked out what gauge strings I wanted on it and a quick once over making sure the neck was straight from my luthier. I always thought I was sensitive with basses but nowadays I have no problem going from a Jazz to a Ric to a 51P.. I think it's mostly in the set-up and feeling comfortable on each. [/quote] Maybe it's technique, I'm a bit of a heavy player. I did some recording using a pic and the bass sounded tremendous. Stuck some light gauge DR strings on and tried to play fingerstyle and it just sounded sh*t. My playing was really shoddy and the intonation was out! A week later heavier gauge, coated strings and it's like playing another bass. Sounds is fantastic and easier to play. Everything falling into place which is a relief because I like the bass. Edited June 29, 2013 by steviedee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 [quote name='4000' timestamp='1372460406' post='2126161'] He also played lots of real ones, which you always seem to conveniently forget. [/quote] not so, I'm fully aware most discerning players have to play lots of them before finding one worth sticking with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1372512921' post='2126648'] not so, I'm fully aware most discerning players have to play lots of them before finding one worth sticking with. [/quote] Which wasn't my point, as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 I've just come back from Bass Gear in Twyford. Played a 1980 vintage 4001 through a Mark Bass head and Bergantino cab. Sounded monumental [size=4] [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviedee Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1372520826' post='2126774'] I've just come back from Bass Gear in Twyford. Played a 1980 vintage 4001 through a Mark Bass head and Bergantino cab. Sounded monumental [/quote] That sounds like a cracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 'Billy Apple' I remember you having a Ric in a bag at one of Clarky's gigs. Was that it? Mapleglow? Come to think of it, it might have been Clarky. MB1. That wasn't a Ric? ...That was The Gamekeepers Daughter! Coat Collected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I picked a Ric off of Clarky to pass onto Beedster, again it was a wonderful looking thing but just wasn't for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.I. Joe Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I've tried a few Ricks. Some were beautiful to play, others were complete dogs. Same story as anything else really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm still looking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 [quote name='simon1964' timestamp='1372468229' post='2126243'] Indeed. Given warnings received from the mods, I need to be careful what I say, but sadly, preferring Rickenbackers to Fenders is not fashionable on here at the moment. But I guess we have to remember that almost 200 of the "active basschat membership" voted for the Rickenbacker ban, and those of us that love Rics will have to live with that [/quote] Er, no you don't, at least on the subject of the instruments themselves - though it is disappointing to find the old discussion reemerging around the nature of the sales ban. Certainly, it was not perfect - but nor were the conditions that created it. None of which stops people talking positively about the instruments, thankfully - if you love them, superb. Still on my list of basses to own. The few I've seen and played seemed well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I used to own a beautiful fireglo '70s 4001. Beautiful to look at that is. I battled and fought that thing for 5 years, had it set up professionally twice (yes by techs who knew how to adjust the trussrods correctly) before I finally had to admit to myself that it was an awful sounding and playing pile of crap of a thing. To this day it's the only one I've ever played but I know that some people love theirs dearly so I just got unlucky with a bum one it seems, so because of this I'm just not down with the boutique-like reverence that some people hold them in. Although one day if ever I have the funds, a 4001V64 is out there with my name on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehux Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) It's taken me 3 Rics to get one that I think has the classic Chris Squire growl that for me is THE Ric sound (a mapleglo 1976 4001 don't you know), but for my normal gigs, I use a Fender Aerodyne Jazz, as it just sits better in the overall blend of sound. The Ricky is my Sunday best, occasional Open Mic night, bass, where it can bark and snap through a few choice songs. Just a shame no-one has ever called out - 'Does anyone know Roundabout? BTW - I did own a beautiful US Jazz for a couple of months, but traded it for the Ric, as I thought it was the blandest thing I'd ever heard and played Edited August 6, 2013 by davehux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.I. Joe Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 [quote name='davehux' timestamp='1375775124' post='2165304'] It's taken me 3 Rics to get one that I think has the classic Chris Squire growl that for me is THE Ric sound (a mapleglo 1976 4001 don't you know), but for my normal gigs, I use a Fender Aerodyne Jazz, as it just sits better in the overall blend of sound. The Ricky is my Sunday best, occasional Open Mic night, bass, where it can bark and snap through a few choice songs. Just a shame no-one has ever called out - 'Does anyone know Roundabout? BTW - I did own a beautiful US Jazz for a couple of months, but traded it for the Ric, as I thought it was the blandest thing I'd ever heard and played [/quote] Which Open Mic nights do you go to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) I always used to want a Ric until I got to spend a good few hours with one. Hated everything about it and I dislike JH's tactics. I still want one though... I blame Lou Barlow Edited August 6, 2013 by bartelby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairobill Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I play a 78 4001 and a 75 RI jazz. Both are stunning and yes, it took me many, many basses to find these good ones. Interestingly though, the jazz proved harder to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 [quote name='simon1964' timestamp='1372468229' post='2126243'] sadly, preferring Rickenbackers to Fenders is not fashionable on here at the moment. [/quote] Surely you either like something or you don't. Or do you actually think that some people claim to not like them because of fashion? [quote name='simon1964' timestamp='1372468229' post='2126243'] But I guess we have to remember that almost 200 of the "active basschat membership" voted for the Rickenbacker ban, and those of us that love Rics will have to live with that [/quote] I joined after that but wasn't that just a ban on pictures, rather than liking or talking about them? I don't know how the vote worked, but does that mean that almost 200 didn't vote against it? I only ever got to play one 4003 and it wasn't anything special, but I would still really like to try others, it sounds like they are highly variable. I would never buy one though as for that money the options available are pretty vast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 My hunt still goes on, and I'm still interested in a loan if anyone has one spare. Out of the two I've played I'd say they were both good. The vintage (79) 4001 at Bass Gear and a brand-spanker 4003 in Wunjo. The neck on the 4001 was flawless, I might have entered into discussions, but it was Maple-glow and that is my least favourite. The 4003 needed a set-up but was basically good, and looked great in Fire-Glow. I played both thru Mark Bass and they sounded ace, but what I really want to do is to try one thru my Matamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 [quote name='Woodinblack' timestamp='1375860177' post='2166469'] I joined after that but wasn't that just a ban on pictures, rather than liking or talking about them? [/quote] You can still love them; and you can tell the entire forum that you love them And, if you're near Billy and are willing to lend him your Ric, you can help him love them too - anyone able to help this BC'er out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm nowhere near Windsor, but if you're ever in the Leicester area you are quite welcome to try mine - although the TRC has been removed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1375727701' post='2164860'] though it is disappointing to find the old discussion reemerging around the nature of the sales ban. [/quote] Gus - I actually posted that back in June, so it's a bit unfair to suggest my post is now the cause of the old discussion re-emerging. In fact, I thought my post had been deleted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matski Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1375891375' post='2167057'] You can still love them; and you can tell the entire forum that you love them [/quote] *raises head above the parapet* I, for one, shall stand up and proclaim "I am a R*ckenb*cker lover and am not ashamed to admit it!" And before I get shot down in flames, may I just add that I also own Fenders and MusicMen amongst others, so am not just a blinkered Ric fanboy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geofio Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 cant beat a 1999 ric in jetglo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 [quote name='simon1964' timestamp='1376394414' post='2173200'] Gus - I actually posted that back in June, so it's a bit unfair to suggest my post is now the cause of the old discussion re-emerging. In fact, I thought my post had been deleted! [/quote] I note that you have been busy with the deletion button Time to turn a page. Plenty of people out there willing to be convinced on the issue of Rickenbackers. Get to it I say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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