Shobaleader One Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Any ideas where i could get my hands on a complete transcription of this epic? I've got numerous books stating the song is included among the transcriptions, but its only the 'Kuru' bassline (the repeating vamp) and nothing else! A bit frustrating, as its a bit too ambitious for me to tackle a transcription of myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I'll have a look what I've got in my stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Sorry, not got either of those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shobaleader One Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1370863296' post='2106397'] I'll have a look what I've got in my stuff. [/quote] thanks for looking anyway! here's a youtube link to the song if anyone hasn't already heard it: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwkvbzd9x4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwkvbzd9x4[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 LOVE this - Jaco just riding the groove and Herbie Hancock on fire over the top of it. Pure class! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matejj53 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I was learning some Jaco's stuff.Have you seen the Hal Leonartds book? If you want I have one spare I can pass it. I usually try to go and transcribe stuff by ear and use someone else's transcription as a guide ( check the fingering)> I usually choose some study piece and try to get bar by bar and get by ear and work on it every day...listen to it allot and by no time you will be able to pick it up .. I heard guys that they play the transcriptions or read tab but they completely lost feel how it should sound ( and that is I believe first recording and than you can change it however you want, the whole point is to learn from recording as I am quite sure you are not gonna play it a band ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shobaleader One Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 [quote name='matejj53' timestamp='1371033191' post='2108799'] I was learning some Jaco's stuff.Have you seen the Hal Leonartds book? If you want I have one spare I can pass it. I usually try to go and transcribe stuff by ear and use someone else's transcription as a guide ( check the fingering)> I usually choose some study piece and try to get bar by bar and get by ear and work on it every day...listen to it allot and by no time you will be able to pick it up .. I heard guys that they play the transcriptions or read tab but they completely lost feel how it should sound ( and that is I believe first recording and than you can change it however you want, the whole point is to learn from recording as I am quite sure you are not gonna play it a band ?) [/quote] I currently have 6 different JP based books, The 'Signature Licks' book has the intro/vamp and the 3/4 over 4/4 vamp he plays over the first piano solo, but nothing else. The 'Bass method' book has a 1 bar vamp exercise. The intention was to use the transcription to learn the part so i could play it as a performance piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gajdosmirci Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Kuru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shobaleader One Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 [quote name='gajdosmirci' timestamp='1371160570' post='2110823'] Kuru [/quote] Thanks - but, as mentioned above, this vamp is the transcription i already have, I was after the complete transcription for the whole track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yeah i could do with this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebass Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Here's a partial transcription, it's the "Speak like a child" bits. Joe Edited July 27, 2013 by Joebass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Thanks for that Joe, I might have a do tomorrow while the Mrs is having her hair done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shobaleader One Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 [quote name='Joebass' timestamp='1374860635' post='2154228'] Here's a partial transcription, it's the "Speak like a child" bits. Joe [/quote] Thanks for that Joe - I cant seem to open the file though, says its an iphone script file? Seems ridiculous i cant open it on an imac :s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebass Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 [quote name='Shobaleader One' timestamp='1375996630' post='2168516'] Thanks for that Joe - I cant seem to open the file though, says its an iphone script file? Seems ridiculous i cant open it on an imac :s [/quote] You have to change the file extension to pdf, some problem with the forum software, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shobaleader One Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 [quote name='Joebass' timestamp='1376049836' post='2169008'] You have to change the file extension to pdf, some problem with the forum software, apparently. [/quote] aaah sorted! Thanks very much - awesome transcription work, this will keep me busy for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB26354 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 [quote name='Shobaleader One' timestamp='1370814377' post='2105991'] Any ideas where i could get my hands on a complete transcription of this epic? I've got numerous books stating the song is included among the transcriptions, but its only the 'Kuru' bassline (the repeating vamp) and nothing else! A bit frustrating, as its a bit too ambitious for me to tackle a transcription of myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Martyn [/quote] I don't know how good your ears are, or your ability to transcribe, but what do you think is holding you back? You mention that it's too ambitious to transcribe. Is it just writing it down or actually picking out the notes? I just want to get to the root of why you don't think you're capable of learning the song by yourself, or at least having a good stab at it. I must admit I've never transcribed it but have played along with it, and in the grand scheme of things it's not mega-hard to work out what's going on. The start, "transaction section" and end have a 5 over 4 run in A minor pentatonic - 5 notes up the pentatonic from the root, then same again starting from the 2nd note of the scale, then the third etc. with a little twist at the end. The one chord vamp over A min appears throughout the tune, briefly going into a 3 over 4 variant - 4 x a 3-beat vamp and 1 x a 4-beat vamp = one 4-bar vamp. The Speak Like A Child sections are more like a jazz standard, but if you listen closely it's almost all cycle of fourths with some chromatic moves. And apart from embellishments, Jaco's line is largely root and 5th. Apart from Jaco's actual lines in the Speak Like A Child bit, that's it. If you feel comfortable with putting dots on a page, why not give it your best shot and post it here (or check against the transcriptions above). You'll learn far more, not just about the tune, but for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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