Risk assessment

[Les]

Anyone got one I could pinch and tweak for our purposes. It's an outdoor gig. We're under cover (marquee thingy) but the punters aren't.

Ta

Les

[Chiliwailer]

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1371304543' post='2112370']
Anyone got one I could pinch and tweak for our purposes. It's an outdoor gig. We're under cover (marquee thingy) but the punters aren't.

Ta

Les
[/quote]

I use these all the time at work, I coach people with Learning Disabilities so have to be covered in all areas.

Make a table and use these as the column headings: [b]Hazard, Outcome, People / property at Risk, Severity / Likelihood. [/b]

[b]Hazard: [/b]What is causing the risk? i.e. water, bad weather, messy wire on stage
[b]Outcome: [/b]What could happen? i.e. slips trips & falls. physical injury damage to instruments, death
[b]People / Property at Risk: [/b]Performers, audience, staff etc
[b]Severity / likelihood: [/b]Grade each one: A= Chance of Death B= Long term injury lasting 3 days or more, C= minor injury. 1=likely to occur, 2=chance of occurring 3=unlikely to occur.

[b]Example: [/b]Hazard = rain water. Outcome = slips trips falls, electrocution, damage to equipment. People/Property = performers, audience and staff. Severity outcome = A2 because electrocution can kill and there is a chance of it occurring.

Now you need to state how you are going to 'deal' with this hazard. So in a new section of the risk assessment you need to list [b]Measures. [/b]For rain water your measure might be: stage to be covered, show to be cancelled if excessive rain fall, mops and buckets to hand, equipment to be placed under cover etc.

Then your final section is [b]actions to be taken. [/b]What do you need to do before the gig and what do staff need to do during the gig to continue doing during the gig? For example, keep an eye out for rain, ensure equipment is in the right place, keep a mop and bucket to hand etc etc.

Now do this for anything you can imagine going wrong at the gig!

Hope this helps;

Edited June 16, 2013 by Chiliwailer

[Kiwi]

Homer does H&S for a living. Might be worth tapping him up for some advice too?

[steve-bbb]

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Now do this for anything you can imagine going wrong at the gig!
[/quote]
what about when 'the song about the girl and the car' goes bad?

edit - on a serious note some of this might be useful

[url="http://www2.hull.ac.uk/administration/pdf/HSafety-Guidance%20on%20the%20use%20of%20marquees.pdf"]http://www2.hull.ac.uk/administration/pdf/HSafety-[/url][url="http://www2.hull.ac.uk/administration/pdf/HSafety-Guidance%20on%20the%20use%20of%20marquees.pdf"]Guidance%20on%20the%20use%20of%20marquees.pdf[/url]
[url="https://www.peterborough.gov.uk/pdf/business-healthsafety-safe-outdoor-events.pdf"]https://www.peterborough.gov.uk/pdf/business-healthsafety-safe-outdoor-events.pdf[/url]
[url="http://www.noda.org.uk/archive/GuidanceforriskassessmentofexposuretoentertainmentlightingV1May2011.pdf"]http://www.noda.org.uk/archive/GuidanceforriskassessmentofexposuretoentertainmentlightingV1May2011.pdf[/url]
[url="http://www.soundadvice.info/amplifiedlivemusic/casestudies.htm#outdoor"]http://www.soundadvice.info/amplifiedlivemusic/casestudies.htm#outdoor[/url] Edited June 16, 2013 by steve-bbb

[danthevan]

Should be able to rip off some of this http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/casestudies/pdf/nightclub.pdf

[xilddx]

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1371304543' post='2112370']
Anyone got one I could pinch and tweak for our purposes. It's an outdoor gig. We're under cover (marquee thingy) but the punters aren't.

Ta

Les
[/quote]

Hello Les,

Who has asked you for a risk assessment?

Who is it for? Just your band?

What activities is it for? Just for your band playing, setting up and tearing down?

Who is responsible for setting up the stage, providing services, security, welfare etc?

What involvement do your local authorities have in the event?

Wondering why you've been asked to complete one.

[xilddx]

[quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1371369610' post='2112923']
I use these all the time at work, I coach people with Learning Disabilities so have to be covered in all areas.

Make a table and use these as the column headings: [b]Hazard, Outcome, People / property at Risk, Severity / Likelihood. [/b]

[b]Hazard: [/b]What is causing the risk? i.e. water, bad weather, messy wire on stage
[b]Outcome: [/b]What could happen? i.e. slips trips & falls. physical injury damage to instruments, death
[b]People / Property at Risk: [/b]Performers, audience, staff etc
[b]Severity / likelihood: [/b]Grade each one: A= Chance of Death B= Long term injury lasting 3 days or more, C= minor injury. 1=likely to occur, 2=chance of occurring 3=unlikely to occur.

[b]Example: [/b]Hazard = rain water. Outcome = slips trips falls, electrocution, damage to equipment. People/Property = performers, audience and staff. Severity outcome = A2 because electrocution can kill and there is a chance of it occurring.

Now you need to state how you are going to 'deal' with this hazard. So in a new section of the risk assessment you need to list [b]Measures. [/b]For rain water your measure might be: stage to be covered, show to be cancelled if excessive rain fall, mops and buckets to hand, equipment to be placed under cover etc.

Then your final section is [b]actions to be taken. [/b]What do you need to do before the gig and what do staff need to do during the gig to continue doing during the gig? For example, keep an eye out for rain, ensure equipment is in the right place, keep a mop and bucket to hand etc etc.

Now do this for anything you can imagine going wrong at the gig!

Hope this helps;
[/quote]

Hello mate, you're on the right lines, but it all depends on the situation and activities. You may also need specific assessments for certain hazards, as well as a general risk assessment. The assessor may need expertise in some areas (electricity, work at heights, rigging, etc, in order to conduct a risk assessment and decide suitable precautions.

Edited June 16, 2013 by xilddx

[Les]

Thanks guys

Nige, it's the agent who has booked us for this event [url="http://www.guysthatchedhamlet.co.uk/WHATSON/390"]http://www.guysthatchedhamlet.co.uk/WHATSON/390[/url] who wants it.

Les

[xilddx]

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1371378397' post='2113043']
Thanks guys

Nige, it's the agent who has booked us for this event [url="http://www.guysthatchedhamlet.co.uk/WHATSON/390"]http://www.guysthatc....uk/WHATSON/390[/url] who wants it.

Les
[/quote]

Ok, interesting

What activities did they specify the RA should cover?

[xilddx]

Les, if you want to PM me their request for a RA, I'll have a look and help you get it sorted.

[Les]

Thanks Nige, the singer's coming here in a few minutes and it was on the contract apparently so I'll quizz him and get back to you.

[xilddx]

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Thanks Nige, the singer's coming here in a few minutes and it was on the contract apparently so I'll quizz him and get back to you.
[/quote]

Cool. It just sounds a bit odd, probably a standard contract proforma or summat. The venue management are generally responsible for HSE compliance, your RA should only be for what your band are doing, it should be very simple. I'm surprised you've been asked at all.

[Les]

Nige, all it says is "Please forward your insurance cover and risk assessment"

It also says if outdoors then venue to provide adequate PA (ours won't cope) and if indoors band to provide PA.

Also if we are prevented from performing due to inclement weather then the fee will still be payable.

Thats it really.

Les

[xilddx]

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Nige, all it says is "Please forward your insurance cover and risk assessment"

It also says if outdoors then venue to provide adequate PA (ours won't cope) and if indoors band to provide PA.

Also if we are prevented from performing due to inclement weather then the fee will still be payable.

Thats it really.

Les
[/quote]

Ok, so you need a general risk assessment for your own activities - setting up, playing, tearing down etc. Is your kit PAT tested and do you use RCDs? Do you have public liability insurance?

Your RA should be simple as possible.

It's a simple five steps: ID the hazards; Decide who is at risk from your activities and how (you and the public); What are your existing precautions; what extra precautions need to be put in place; decide the likelihood and severity of of the risks, review and implement your assessment.

You only need to consider significant risks that could cause real harm (electricity, manual handling, slips and trips, etc.) Don't get trapped into trying to prevent every possible eventuality.

Have a quick look at this.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/casestudies/


I have to go out now but I'll be back about 6pm mate.

[Les]

Thanks for the help everyone. Gonna use one of the templates and knock one up. Sort of assuming that other than our equipment being safe and PAT tested everything other than our own house keeping on stage, like security to keep the public off, electrical supply etc is going to be he managements part.

To be honest I think if I downloaded the NASA space walk risk assessment and sent it to the agent it would just be filed and not read.

[TimR]

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1371416776' post='2113735']
Thanks for the help everyone. Gonna use one of the templates and knock one up. Sort of assuming that other than our equipment being safe and PAT tested everything other than our own house keeping on stage, like security to keep the public off, electrical supply etc is going to be he managements part.

To be honest I think if I downloaded the NASA space walk risk assessment and sent it to the agent it would just be filed and not read.
[/quote]

You wrote it, therefor you read it. It's your responsibility now that the actions you have written on it are either carried out by yourself, or where you have noted, by others.

If they're not then you don't play. End of.

If the sh*t hits the fan, you can bet lots of very important people will read it.

[flyfisher]

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1371416776' post='2113735']
To be honest I think if I downloaded the NASA space walk risk assessment and sent it to the agent it would just be filed and not read.
[/quote]

Quite possibly.


[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1371417378' post='2113744']
If the sh*t hits the fan, you can bet lots of very important people will read it.
[/quote]

Quite definitely.

[xilddx]

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1371416776' post='2113735']
Thanks for the help everyone. Gonna use one of the templates and knock one up. Sort of assuming that other than our equipment being safe and PAT tested everything other than our own house keeping on stage, like security to keep the public off, electrical supply etc is going to be he managements part.

To be honest I think if I downloaded the NASA space walk risk assessment and sent it to the agent it would just be filed and not read.
[/quote]
It's a legal document, take it seriously even if it does seem like it's a bit OTT on behalf of the venue.

If you want opinion on your RA, post it here, I think it will be interesting to discuss risk management and perception.

[Les]

Yes, I am taking it seriously to be fair. I'm just not 100 per cent sure the venue is ever going to see it to be honest, I think it may just be the agent asking for it.
Will nail it together and put it up here for an opinion.

We're quite a long in the tooth easy going, will always find a solution band, but what happens if the venue haven't done any of the things you would expect ? Like no security to keep the public off the stage and out of harms way ?

Can I just waive my risk assessment and say we won't be playing, give us our fee and we'll get out of your hair ?

[TimR]

It really depends on what their risk assessment says. Which you will obviously ask to see

They will have decided what level of security to provide, probably it is specified in law or by their insurance. Although they've probably sub contracted that to a registered company too.

[Les]

Christ I'm tying myself in knots here, page seven hundred and sixty eight is dealing with a terrorist attack and the four minute warning of a nuclear strike

Better get back to the basics

[TimR]

Lol.

Just limit it to the type of things you know could happen. Not the things that might happen. If that makes sense.

So electrically, someone could spill beer over cables or a drum stand spike could go through a cable. Either make sure gear is RCD protected or ban drinks and state no spikes on stands. People can trip over cables, route them away from exists and where you will be playing and gaffa tape lose ones that can't be rerouted.
Don't block fire escapes etc.

Just basic housekeeping that you would usually do but written down.

Really doesn't need to be a 10 page document.

Edited June 17, 2013 by TimR

[Les]

Now I can't figure a way to post it on here

It's a word doc if anyone can help.

[Dad3353]

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1371467100' post='2114105']
Now I can't figure a way to post it on here

It's a word doc if anyone can help.
[/quote]

Can you transform it into pdf (there are online services, if you Google...), then attach..?

[Les]

Tried it. Using attach files I attach bandriskassess.doc or bandriskassess.pdf and all looks good till I preview the post and then even I can't open it from here.