Samashton12 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I'm sure you've all seen this before but i find this utterly fantastic. So i'd thought i'd start another pointless thread to admire it as i seem to be heading into a massive "Jaco phase" recently, surprising since i play Indie and Alternative. I see it as a benchmark for what i'll never be able to play, as it will be rather impossible to be as technically sound as him. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25DXcFg1TFo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25DXcFg1TFo[/url] Thanks, Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Welcome into the fold, Brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samashton12 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 I feel honoured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Oddly enough, his touch is pretty poor in that vid. It is NOT the Portait of Tracy version he recorded. Then again, that was many spliced sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1372725058' post='2129275'] Oddly enough, his touch is pretty poor in that vid. It is NOT the Portait of Tracy version he recorded. Then again, that was many spliced sections. [/quote] Was it? I'd be surprised and a little disappointed if that was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietruszka Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1372744556' post='2129300'] Was it? I'd be surprised and a little disappointed if that was the case. [/quote] Don't be! Most of zappa's, if not all his solos were spliced from live recordings. Pitch raised to get it in the right key in the studio. Doesn't mean either of them can't play. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) [quote name='pietruszka' timestamp='1372750119' post='2129353'] Don't be! Most of zappa's, if not all his solos were spliced from live recordings. Pitch raised to get it in the right key in the studio. Doesn't mean either of them can't play. Dan [/quote] not only that but they were often deliberately overdubbed over backing in a different time signature for added crazy syncopation check out this (the solo resolves back at about 7 minutes with the solo and backing as a genuine live performance - the guitar is sublime but PoH bass is amazing too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUfB06roxb4 Edited March 24, 2014 by icastle Link fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 [quote name='pietruszka' timestamp='1372750119' post='2129353'] Don't be! Most of zappa's, if not all his solos were spliced from live recordings. Pitch raised to get it in the right key in the studio. Doesn't mean either of them can't play. Dan [/quote] Not quite what I meant. A few years back Jaco's first wife, Tracy, posted about it on the JacoPastorius.com forum (which has long gone). She said he used to drive her nuts with that tune... I find slightly it hard to believe it wasn't a completed tune when he went into the studio. To the OP... Portrait of Tracy isn't that difficult to play. You just need to break it into manageable sections. I spent a few weeks working on it and pretty much nailed it, and if I can do it, anyone can. The only part I can't do is the stretched artificial harmonic D# (second fret B with the sixth fret harmonic). I just can't reach that far. I use my thumb at the neck pickup instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samashton12 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1372754535' post='2129410'] Not quite what I meant. A few years back Jaco's first wife, Tracy, posted about it on the JacoPastorius.com forum (which has long gone). She said he used to drive her nuts with that tune... I find slightly it hard to believe it wasn't a completed tune when he went into the studio. To the OP... Portrait of Tracy isn't that difficult to play. You just need to break it into manageable sections. I spent a few weeks working on it and pretty much nailed it, and if I can do it, anyone can. The only part I can't do is the stretched artificial harmonic D# (second fret B with the sixth fret harmonic). I just can't reach that far. I use my thumb at the neck pickup instead. [/quote] I face a similar problem to you, but i hit the B on the 7th fret of the E and harmonic the 11th? it gives the same note I've found., and guys i have started learning it! i am up to the D# artificial harmonic part at the moment, the harmonic chords were putting me off but i sat for hours last night repeating them and now i seem to be able to play them! Thanks, Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 [quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1372635300' post='2128053'] Welcome into the fold, Brother. [/quote] +1, he's a master. Not the best clip of him but utterly compelling nonetheless, thanks. (Did that incarnation of the Bass of Doom have an ebony fingerboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Poor "Tracy" she sounds like one mixed up bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samashton12 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Even his distorted tone at the end of that (before the bends) sounds cool, although I love the ending artificial harmonic in the original. Possibly the hardest to play, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) [quote name='the boy' timestamp='1372772612' post='2129727'] Poor "Tracy" she sounds like one mixed up *****. [/quote] I'm assuming you're talking about the tune Sam posted rather than the real person. It's not the best version of PoT that's out there... here's the original version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsZ_1mPOuyk (which I think is quite a pretty tune) There's an article about the real Tracy here in which she talks about the tune: [url="http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/continuum/Content?oid=1190028"]http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/continuum/Content?oid=1190028[/url] Edited March 24, 2014 by icastle Link fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samashton12 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Dlloyd, you're correct in saying its not the best version, nothing beats the original, I just seen this a live take on it and found it rather brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1372775237' post='2129780'] I'm assuming you're talking about the tune Sam posted rather than the real person. It's not the best version of PoT that's out there... here's the original version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsZ_1mPOuyk (which I think is quite a pretty tune) There's an article about the real Tracy here in which she talks about the tune: [url="http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/continuum/Content?oid=1190028"]http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/continuum/Content?oid=1190028[/url] [/quote] Thanks for that, you are right. It's much better and I really enjoyed it. Edited March 24, 2014 by icastle Link fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samashton12 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 [quote name='the boy' timestamp='1372807709' post='2130333'] Thanks for that, you are right. It's much better and I really enjoyed it. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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