Jono Bolton Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 What's the difference between the Squier Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe ranges? As far as I can tell, both ranges are loosely based around vintage instruments, but why the need for 2 ranges? Is it different materials, or place of manufacture? From the basses I've looked at the Classic Vibes seem to be a bit nicer than the VMs, but I ask mainly because I'm thinking about getting a new guitar, and I'm looking at the VM Jazzmaster (which seems to be a straight up copy), and the CV Tele, which is based around an early 50s model with the pine body. Can anyone shed some light on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrene Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 The CV Teles are amazing. I sold one last year. When i have the cash i'm getting another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) "Rebranding the same old designs ad infinitum" I think that's the Fender strategy/marketing department mantra ;-) Sorry, not very helpful. I know they tweak those designs occasionally. As to the difference between CV and VM? Not sure, but people seem to rate the CV more Edited July 4, 2013 by Roland Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos3h Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 In my opinion, the CV guitars are the best models available in terms of bang for the buck. Superb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Isn't the CV made in China and the VM Indonesia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 There are loads of CV and VM threads on here, they have been out for quite a long time now. Some like one, some like the other. Either way both ranges offer very good value for money, and the CV's certainly way above their price point IME. I actually prefer the look and colour combo's of the VM range, but the vintage frets on the CV range are what sold me. These necks are fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samashton12 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 The VM offset's are fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted July 4, 2013 Author Share Posted July 4, 2013 Looking at the Squier website, it seems that the CVs are styled on vintage instruments, whereas the VMs are supposed to be vintage styled instruments but "modded" (hence the name I guess! ) I think I was a bit confused because while I can see the modified aspect of things like the Strat with lipstick puckups and the Telecaster Bass Special, the Jaguars, Jazzmasters, Mustangs and the Precisions don't seem to really be modified in any way, they look like they'd fit better in the CV range. Is there much of a jump in quality between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samashton12 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 [quote name='Jono Bolton' timestamp='1372936821' post='2131794'] Looking at the Squier website, it seems that the CVs are styled on vintage instruments, whereas the VMs are supposed to be vintage styled instruments but "modded" (hence the name I guess! ) I think I was a bit confused because while I can see the modified aspect of things like the Strat with lipstick puckups and the Telecaster Bass Special, the Jaguars, Jazzmasters, Mustangs and the Precisions don't seem to really be modified in any way, they look like they'd fit better in the CV range. Is there much of a jump in quality between the two? [/quote] Thats a good point about the offsets, and I'm not really sure about the jump in quality, ive played both VM and CV squiers and they've both been amazing. If you want something truly mad, take a look at the Fender Pawn Shop series! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted July 4, 2013 Author Share Posted July 4, 2013 [quote name='Samashton12' timestamp='1372940041' post='2131856'] Thats a good point about the offsets, and I'm not really sure about the jump in quality, ive played both VM and CV squiers and they've both been amazing. If you want something truly mad, take a look at the Fender Pawn Shop series! [/quote] I'm really not keen on the Pawn Shop range, like the VM instruments that have been "pre-modded", they're really not to my taste. I prefer the ones like the offsets and a couple of the Precisions that seem to be fairly faithful reproductions of standard models from yesteryear. I've not had an opportunity to play any of the guitars I'm looking at, I guess the best thing to do it to give them all a try and just go for the one that I like the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruiner Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 The 'vintage modified' aspect of the jaguars and jazzmasters relates to the fretboard radius, which is 9.5" as opposed to the vintage correct radius of 7.25" apparently. I think the pickup output is hotter also, but having never played a vintage jag/JM I couldn't tell you for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblueplanet Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Ive played a couple of VM and CV basses and prefer the CV models. The P basses are excellent value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 No comparison. The VM are fine for the price. But they're budget instruments. The CV are far better quality -- not quite as good as an American standard but at least as good as a MIM for about half the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 From all of the previous discussion, the most important thing to remember for me personally, has been the remark that one can buy CVs unseen whilst the VMs must be tested before purchase. This is what prompted me to go for CVs, and I can't say I'm sorry. One is perfect, one has a badly routed pup hole that I don't care about, and the last one needed a turn of a screw to become perfect. Never even seen a VM live. best, bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1372966214' post='2132302'] No comparison. The VM are fine for the price. But they're budget instruments. The CV are far better quality -- not quite as good as an American standard but at least as good as a MIM for about half the cost. [/quote] [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1372981892' post='2132568'] From all of the previous discussion, the most important thing to remember for me personally, has been the remark that one can buy CVs unseen whilst the VMs must be tested before purchase. This is what prompted me to go for CVs, and I can't say I'm sorry. One is perfect, one has a badly routed pup hole that I don't care about, and the last one needed a turn of a screw to become perfect. [/quote] Cheers guys, that's the sort of response I was looking for. I've heard that both are good in their own right, but I was really wanting to know if there was much of a difference in quality between them. For the £50-odd jump in price, it looks like it's going to be the CV Telecaster, unless anyone knows which range the J Mascis Jazzmaster comes under? I believe the signature Squiers, like the Matt Freeman P, are more or less Classic Vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrene Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I know two guys who gig with the Mascis. One is a traditonal picker/strummer while the other has an approach that verges on Nels Cline/Thurston Moore. Both sound great and i beileve they're excellent instruments. Another bloke i know bought the '50s Tele after playing mine. He was particular impressed with the controls and the quality of the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njr911 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Please stop, you're giving me guitar GAS. J Mascis Sig would be lovely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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