bassjamm Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hi all, Right, following on from my other thread on Bergantino Cabs, i thought i'd get a general thought on 1x12's and 2x12 cabs. I've got a Dr Bass RX1260, which i think is awesome, along with an RX210, but i need to upgrade them and would like to stick with 12's, and if possible, a single cab solution! Here's what i'm considering: Ampeg 112's...has anyone used these, will they take my SVT battering them, would a single one be enough for small gigs? Dr Bass 2460...great cab for the money Bergantino IP212/112...just learning about these Epifani UL212...saw Matt Garrison last night, his sounded pretty awesome, so any thoughts? Plus any others you'd suggest. I've played the Aguilar 1x12's, they're great little cabs, but just not really what i'm after at the moment. Anyway, apart from that, it'd just be interesting to see what you all think about the different 12" cab solutions that are out there really. Thanks Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) BFLD OmniTop 12 I bought the detailed plans from Bill. Very comprehensive and easy to follow. You can order them from Bill here - [url="http://billfitzmaurice.com/Ordering.html"]http://billfitzmaurice.com/Ordering.html[/url] For a vintage tone I'm temped to build without the tweeters. Now just gotta decide whether to build a 2x12 or two 1x12's. Hamster Edit: David L Perry did an A/B with a few 12" cabs not so long ago - [url="http://billfitzmaurice.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5322&highlight=aguilar"]http://billfitzmaurice.com/phpBB2/viewtopi...ghlight=aguilar[/url] Edited June 9, 2008 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted June 8, 2008 Author Share Posted June 8, 2008 That looks a bit quirky...not sure i'd get taken seriously using one of those on my gigs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 [url="http://www.bassmerchant.com/manufacturers.php?manufacturer_id=26"]These[/url] look nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBod Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 The EA cxl112 is a great cab - very revealing, and a bit of a shock when you first try it. Much more midrange than you normally get out of a bass cab, and that translates in a band situation to hearing everything you play. Bit like a DI experience - you either love it or hate it. A couple of times I've had sound engineers take a good look at it, as they've been very impressed with the way it projects sound. They are pricey new, but come up secondhand for around £350 - 400? BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clauster Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 [quote]That looks a bit quirky...not sure i'd get taken seriously using one of those on my gigs!!![/quote] That's why I'm looking forward to finishing my BFM cabs - Aparently you can expect weird looks when you first wheel them out, then amazed looks when they hear the tone + volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Epifani UL112 Epifani T112NYC I run these as a pair. The T112 is very deep, almost like a 15 whereas the UL112 is a lot brighter. Very loud and punchy combination. I hear very good reports of the Genz Benz NEOX 212. Apparently very good and very light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted June 8, 2008 Author Share Posted June 8, 2008 Thanks for the replies guys... [quote name='obbm' post='214953' date='Jun 8 2008, 04:14 PM']Epifani UL112 Epifani T112NYC I run these as a pair. The T112 is very deep, almost like a 15 whereas the UL112 is a lot brighter. Very loud and punchy combination. I hear very good reports of the Genz Benz NEOX 212. Apparently very good and very light.[/quote] Is the T112 a discontinued cab then? I can't find much info on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 [quote name='bassjamm' post='214941' date='Jun 8 2008, 03:58 PM']That looks a bit quirky...not sure i'd get taken seriously using one of those on my gigs!!![/quote] Well, you can always put a grill on - this is an Omni 2x10 (courtesy of DLP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I use a Hartke PRO 2200 cab. 4 Ohms, 300 Watts handling, 2x12". I think it sounds great with plenty of low-end and very responsive (it's quite a large, ported enclosure). I think it has the best of both worlds (10" speakers vs. 15" speakers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 My first proper rig was a 2x12 and I have been using 12's for the last few years. I can vouch for the EBS Neoline 212 and GenzBenz NeoX112T's as I am now using a pair of the latter. Good cabs as long as you are OK with the Neo sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) [quote name='bassjamm' post='214941' date='Jun 8 2008, 10:58 AM']That looks a bit quirky...not sure i'd get taken seriously using one of those on my gigs!!![/quote]Confucius say if being taken seriously depend on how gear look rather than how it sound consider changing occupation from musician to painter. Edited June 9, 2008 by Bill Fitzmaurice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born 2B Mild Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I use a Schroeder 1210R and I know there are a few Shroeder users on BC. Maybe you could add them them to you research list? [url="http://www.schroedercabinets.com/home.htm"]Shroeder website[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I can definitely recommend the Genz Benz Neox212T..... a GREAT 2x12 cab, 600w @ 4ohms, tweeter and ports, lightweight, handles and wheels...... full range sound with no shortage of low end, punchy mids or sparkling highs! By default I would therefore also recommend the Neox112T (the 1x12 version) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjamm Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 Thanks for all of the suggestions!!! Has anyone played any of the Bag End cabs, not just the 12" ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 [quote name='Born 2B Mild' post='215731' date='Jun 9 2008, 09:18 PM']I use a Schroeder 1210R and I know there are a few Shroeder users on BC. Maybe you could add them them to you research list? [url="http://www.schroedercabinets.com/home.htm"]Shroeder website[/url][/quote] Ive just got rid of a UL212. Its was a really nice sounding cab. very full sounding in the right venue but i felt it lacked something my 1210R has. I've replaced it with a 1212L and although ive not gigged the 1212L yet (first time out this Sat) i played them side by side at work using my SA450 and found that although the 1212L doesnt go as low it will kick through the mix better (as do all the Schroeder cabs). without changing any settings on the amp the 1212L sounded a bit louder, due i guess to the mid bump, but because it doesnt have the extra low freq the UL212 does it seemed to produce a stronger, punchier sound. I found the very low end of the UL212 could sound a bit slow and woolly on certain stages (of course) where as my 1210R doesn't seem to mind what its put on so im hoping the 1212L with be the same. IME of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Well, I'm generally not keen on recommending gear because it's all so subjective. But I also use a Schroeder 1212L and for me, it's an excellent gigging cab for all venues that I play which is the usual pubs, clubs and hotels and one outdoor gig. Not everyone likes the tone but I have to say that I love it. It's a pleasure to be able to hear yourself and the tone cuts through the mix like nothing else that I have used. You can also hear all your mistakes exceptionally well which is a mixed blessing...... As always, best to try before you buy IMO. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 [quote name='machinehead' post='216111' date='Jun 10 2008, 01:02 PM']Well, I'm generally not keen on recommending gear because it's all so subjective. But I also use a Schroeder 1212L and for me, it's an excellent gigging cab for all venues that I play which is the usual pubs, clubs and hotels and one outdoor gig. Not everyone likes the tone but I have to say that I love it. It's a pleasure to be able to hear yourself and the tone cuts through the mix like nothing else that I have used. You can also hear all your mistakes exceptionally well which is a mixed blessing...... As always, best to try before you buy IMO. Frank[/quote] yeah, every now and again im standing on stage thinking that my tone is giving me a headache as its so loud and middy but then i remember how well its sitting in the mix out front. The first time i used my 1210R i thought it was ok but nothing special. I turned it down and it sounded much better, not nicer, just better for my ears. I then walked out front and was amazed at how much low end was there. i certainly couldn't hear it on stage but then again i was only a couple of feet from the cab. In fact as i got about 20feet form the stage (using a 30ft lead) it sounded just perfect. the lows just seem to bloom (or maybe its the mids getting softer) as you get further away from the stage. sorry for going on. These cabs need to be heard to get what they are all about. I do agree though they arent to everyone's taste. Really looking forward to getting the 1212L broken in and seeing what it can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I have a Euphonic CXl 1x12 which is a nice little live gigging cab (in my opinion anyway!). Will probably sell it soon though as I've just picked up a couple of EBS cabs. One of these is a 2x12 and it's really punchy with a deep tone but a crisp top end as well. Haven't been able to gig with it yet but have a feeling it might be a really good standalone 12" option. I've tried it back to back with the EBS 2x10 and the 12 is way deeper in tone that the 10. If you're anywhere near me then you're welcome to try any of them - I'm in Henley by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinman Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 [quote name='bassjamm' post='214941' date='Jun 8 2008, 03:58 PM']That looks a bit quirky...not sure i'd get taken seriously using one of those on my gigs!!![/quote] I finished my Omni10 (which has the tweeters to the side rather than in the horn) in black paint. Bill likes his grey (gray?) carpet but it's not my thing. They sound serious. [attachment=9497:Cab11.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodl2005 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 [quote name='bassjamm' post='214916' date='Jun 8 2008, 01:53 PM']Hi all, Right, following on from my other thread on Bergantino Cabs, i thought i'd get a general thought on 1x12's and 2x12 cabs. I've got a Dr Bass RX1260, which i think is awesome, along with an RX210, but i need to upgrade them and would like to stick with 12's, and if possible, a single cab solution! Here's what i'm considering: Ampeg 112's...has anyone used these, will they take my SVT battering them, would a single one be enough for small gigs? Dr Bass 2460...great cab for the money Bergantino IP212/112...just learning about these Epifani UL212...saw Matt Garrison last night, his sounded pretty awesome, so any thoughts? Plus any others you'd suggest. I've played the Aguilar 1x12's, they're great little cabs, but just not really what i'm after at the moment. Anyway, apart from that, it'd just be interesting to see what you all think about the different 12" cab solutions that are out there really. Thanks Jamie[/quote] Re the Bergantino IP cabs- U DO realise these are active(powered) cabs! & therefore only require a preamp to run... IMO/IME Hard to go past ANY Bergantino cabs!!! HT212 is a good one! ( If I got the model No. correct.) As are the new lightweight -NEO- "AE" berg series! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Another Schroeder user here. I use an LMII with a Schroeder 1212L. I'm very pleased with my rig. The cab is very light & compact but sounds absolutely massive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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