stoned!!

[steve-bbb]

putting this here as everybody seems to be putting anything and everything in GT or OT these days

So,

friday nights gig, dreadful sound and loads of squealing from the PA

PA was up on stands as per usual, i put my 410 up on two low stools so it was up and isolated from the ground

anybody have any practical tips on how to deal with playing in pubs with flagstone floors?

ta muchly

[Thunderbird]

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1373199832' post='2134567']
putting this here as everybody seems to be putting anything and everything in GT or OT these days

So,

friday nights gig, dreadful sound and loads of squealing from the PA

PA was up on stands as per usual, i put my 410 up on two low stools so it was up and isolated from the ground

anybody have any practical tips on how to deal with playing in pubs with flagstone floors?

ta muchly
[/quote] My mate always puts some old carpet under his amps/stands as he says it cushions the "blow" from the amps to the floor dunno if he is talking BS but it kinda makes sense.

[steve-bbb]

it wasnt empty there were plenty of people in there to saok up some of the sound but maybe not enough im guessing

[steve-bbb]

ok short of re-carpeting the entire venue how about any VIZ helpful tips?

[Dad3353]

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1373199832' post='2134567']...anybody have any practical tips on how to deal with playing in pubs with flagstone floors?...[/quote]
[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1373268225' post='2135345']...how about any VIZ helpful tips? [/quote]

Don't do any sound-check until they've put down the layer of sawdust..?

[chris_b]

Not really enough information.

The PA was "squealing". Do you mean feeding back?

Did you try turning it down.

Some rooms will be tough to EQ and can show up any shortcomings in your gear and some rooms will never sound good no matter what you do.

If it's the former, try taking some bass and top off. Focus on the mids and turn down. If it's the latter, just look forward to the next gig.

Problem rooms will always sound worse if the band is too loud or unbalanced.

[steve-bbb]

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1373273987' post='2135430']
Not really enough information.

The PA was "squealing". Do you mean feeding back?

Did you try turning it down.

Some rooms will be tough to EQ and can show up any shortcomings in your gear and some rooms will never sound good no matter what you do.

If it's the former, try taking some bass and top off. Focus on the mids and turn down. If it's the latter, just look forward to the next gig.

Problem rooms will always sound worse if the band is too loud or unbalanced.
[/quote]
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[*]yes
[*]yes - and pointing the speakers at slightly different angles
[*]yes
[*]not sure im just the thumper playing bass at the back (not DI'd through PA tho this particular night)
[*]definitely this - the other option was to play outside in the beer garden but we were inside instead for reasons not known to me (see 4)
[/list]

[Truckstop]

Nothing you can do. Some rooms just sound terrible all the time. To make it easier for the listener just try to keep the volume down and deal with the fact that you won't be able to hear yourself very well!

I always take a rug with me to gigs in case of wood, tile or stone floors. I don't think it makes any difference to the sound, I just don't like leaving my stuff on bare floors!

Truckstop

[EBS_freak]

A 31 band eq on each output point (e.g. L/R and monitors) to notch troublesome frequencies would be a good starting point.

Edited July 8, 2013 by EBS_freak

[tauzero]

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1373287796' post='2135641']
yes - and pointing the speakers at slightly different angles
[/quote]

How far forward of the mics were the speakers?

[steve-bbb]

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1374270905' post='2147186']
How far forward of the mics were the speakers?
[/quote]

not very - thats the singists territory i try not to get to involved only a couple of feet iirc

[tauzero]

That would contribute to the problem, the further forward the speakers can go (or the further back the mic), the higher the volume can go without feedback.

The floor would be less of an issue than a hollow stage, which makes things boomy and where you can get feedback through the stage itself. I'd be inclined to look at the room generally and see what oddities it had.

[ezbass]

I take my Gramma pad to most gigs as that seems to sort all sorts of problems: boomy, hollow stage/floor; uneven stone; whatever.