waynepunkdude Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 [quote name='Bassmonkey' timestamp='1373491023' post='2138328'] Gotta agree Matt Freeman too [/quote] I'm sorry but anything after 1980 isn't punk, apparently that's how music works. Quote
Adrenochrome Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) http://youtu.be/RTWSSCYUD4E http://youtu.be/-KTsXHXMkJA Edited July 10, 2013 by Adrenochrome Quote
waynepunkdude Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 [quote name='Adrenochrome' timestamp='1373491465' post='2138341'] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RTWSSCYUD4E#t=7s"]http://www.youtube.c...TWSSCYUD4E#t=7s[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-KTsXHXMkJA#t=5s"]http://www.youtube.c...KTsXHXMkJA#t=5s[/url] [/quote] Great shout on both. Quote
molan Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1373491403' post='2138339'] I'm sorry but anything after 1980 isn't punk, apparently that's how music works. [/quote] I'd say '79 - '80's was just 'power pop with attitude (much of which was 'pretend'). Punk was more than a musical style. People had been playing hard and fast for a long time and will continue to do so for many more years I'm sure. It just ain't 'punk', maybe 'thrash' is a better term Quote
tonyquipment Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 [quote name='Adrenochrome' timestamp='1373491465' post='2138341'] [media]http://youtu.be/RTWSSCYUD4E[/media] [media]http://youtu.be/-KTsXHXMkJA[/media] [/quote] weird, i played both of these at rehersal the other day! Quote
Lozz196 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 2 pages in and no mention of JJ yet. Hmmmmm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55d4XkfW8w Quote
cameltoe Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Guns of Brixton? Surely that's the most well known? I really like matt freemans 100mph scale runs on Animosity from the first Rancid album as well. At the time I liked the melodic edge Randy Bradbury gave to Pennywise after JMT passed away, the Full Circle album had a new edge to it because of this. If anyone mentions Mark Hoppus they're getting punched in the balls! Quote
cameltoe Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 [quote name='Ziphoblat' timestamp='1373487794' post='2138269'] Not really classic punk, and perhaps not even punk by the standards of some, but I always loved the bass to this track (not really a big fan of the band though): [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34SA1qTfQw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34SA1qTfQw[/url] [/quote] I used to love AFI, when they were classic hardcore. They went a bit overboard with the goth angle for my liking. Quote
Lowender Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Some cool things in there, but honestly most of that stuff sounds like a collection of riffs I came up with the first week of playing bass. Quote
Nibody Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1373493893' post='2138371'] 2 pages in and no mention of JJ yet. Hmmmmm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55d4XkfW8w [/quote] Was thinking that myself Lozz! Not nearly enough Simonon either. Quote
cameltoe Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1373514637' post='2138473'] Some cool things in there, but honestly most of that stuff sounds like a collection of riffs I came up with the first week of playing bass. [/quote] Oooh get you! Quote
bassmachine2112 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Bruce Foxton anybody. From the beginning-In The City and onwards That geezer from Ian Dury and the Blockheads Does the guy from the Attractions qualify,suppose new wave is a bit out of bounds for this one. There was some good players about then as there is now. JJ had some great moments as well,what about the beginning of Peaches. Basss players were allowed to be right up there in the mix as well with a nice clanky sound unlike the psuedo keyboard basss sound nowadays or is it the producers that are to blame. Even the telly broadcasts do this they squeeze and compress all the goodness out and shove the bass into a corner with no dynamics allowed,just watch any broadcast. Maybe there is a technical reason why. Oops strayed a bit there,my apologies Quote
Prunesquallor Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1373493064' post='2138360'] I'd say '79 - '80's was just 'power pop with attitude (much of which was 'pretend'). Punk was more than a musical style. People had been playing hard and fast for a long time and will continue to do so for many more years I'm sure. It just ain't 'punk', maybe 'thrash' is a better term [/quote] Well, thrash is a totally different genre... I believe the genre police called Suicidal Tendencies and the Dead Kennedys 'West coast skatecore' or something, but punk will do for most of us. Quote
Prunesquallor Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Myke' timestamp='1373482916' post='2138195'] Paul Gray [/quote] He did a couple of albums with them, so he lasted longer than most. I think he was the one who dictated his will to his girlfriend down the phone during an Italian tour (things were getting a bit hairy, apparently), and joined UFO of all people shortly afterwards. Edited July 11, 2013 by Prunesquallor Quote
Low End Bee Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I can't contribute. I get angry at the definition of 'punk' I prefer New Wave myself..... Quote
Graham Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1373495855' post='2138393'] If anyone mentions Mark Hoppus they're getting punched in the balls! [/quote] I do like the intro to Carousel though :wink: Quote
molan Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='Prunesquallor' timestamp='1373529883' post='2138552'] Well, thrash is a totally different genre... I believe the genre police called Suicidal Tendencies and the Dead Kennedys 'West coast skatecore' or something, but punk will do for most of us. [/quote] There are no American punk bands. . . Quote
megallica Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1373487585' post='2138266'] Have to agree with this - most of the nominations so far are not what I'd call 'punk'. As an example Suicidal Tendancies were formed a good 2 years after the last thrashings of punk had finished. . . [/quote] You mean punk finished in 1985, why did nobody tell me? Quote
Roland Rock Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) What about Canadian punk bands ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oElH1zBvws Also, some Detroit greatness, such as Kick out the Jams by MC5 and Loose by Stoogies Edited July 11, 2013 by Roland Rock Quote
Prunesquallor Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1373530978' post='2138573'] There are no American punk bands. . . [/quote] Quote
PaulWarning Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1373530978' post='2138573'] There are no American punk bands. . . [/quote] if you're being serious, the Ramones, they practically invented it Quote
megallica Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1373530978' post='2138573'] There are no American punk bands. . . [/quote] I had a silly notion that the Ramones started the punk scene Quote
megallica Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1373531422' post='2138581'] [b]What about Canadian punk bands[/b] ;-) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oElH1zBvws[/media] Also, some Detroit greatness, such as Kick out the Jams by MC5 and Loose by Stoogies [/quote] can't forget DOA Quote
Roland Rock Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='megallica' timestamp='1373531593' post='2138590'] can't forget DOA [/quote] Yup, more Canadian greatness :-) Quote
molan Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1373531466' post='2138583'] if you're being serious, the Ramones, they practically invented it [/quote] Ramones were never a punk band - just a fast rock band with short songs. If any US band can get any credit for stirring future punk imaginations I guess the New York Dolls could have an honourable mention. Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers were pretty much adopted as punks because they spent so much time over here. The reast of the US bands that tagged along coined the horrible 'new wave' epithet so beloved of Radio 1 and BBC DJ's when they were forced to play things they so obviously detested. Post '79 most genuine punk bands had floundered and/or turned into cheap parodies of themselves. The Americans were merely copping a style of music. Saying that punk lives on is a bit like saying genuine Mod or Ska or Rock 'n' Roll is still with us. Sure, there are bands playing this type of music but they are just copyists not the 'real thing'. I don't have anything against them (I, unashamedly, play in a covers band) I just can't accept that they are 'punk' bands. Maybe you had to 'live the life' in the late '70's to understand it. Quote
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