Stacker Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 [quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1373662008' post='2140436'] Just use the old Muso trick of gettting a bottle of sparkling mineral water and filling it up with Gin and Tonic! [/quote] Surely you mean 'Local Crew'?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Can an employer tell you what to do outside of work hours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 [quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1373708013' post='2140742'] Can an employer tell you what to do outside of work hours? [/quote] Depends on the job/career I guess. Not 'tell' but they can expect a level of responsibility. A musician is not one of those that I would expect to be 100% straight laced. It's only music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Do the musos have to double as safety advisors in an emergency? I know a former cruise ship singer who seemed to have other official duties in that capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassninja Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I guess it all boils down to "[i]is the money and/or experience worth avoiding alcohol until I get home[/i]?". You want to cruise on HMS Mormon Spirit of the Seas, you have play nicely and wear the special underpants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Two weeks without beer. Well in my drinking days I wouldn`t have even considered it. But, as others have said, if looked at as a job, then it`s just part of the conditions, same as wearing a shirt & tie - if you`re not prepared to do so, then don`t take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Its probably for heath and safety reasons. It's not uncommon for work places with a mission-critical operations role to have a no tolerance approach to alcohol. Yes exceptions could be made in specific circumstances but at the end of the day its easier for the company to manage a blanket ban rather than get drawn into debate over the relationship between roles and booze. Airlines have the same approach to mobile phones - not all cause problems but some do (like Nokia). The airlines don't want to get drawn into debates either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmanzie Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) I've got a similar job - after making the dinner for my girlfriend I can have a few drinks, but picking up the bass is strictly forbidden. Edited July 13, 2013 by tedmanzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 [quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1373712708' post='2140831'] I've got a similar job - after making the dinner for my girlfriend I can have a few drinks, but picking up the bass is strictly forbidden. [/quote] My double bass lives in the kitchen.. no way of enforcing a blanket ban there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceonaboy Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [i]Maybe you have to stay sober in case the ship sinks and they want you to play on the maindeck to calm the passengers. You dont happen to know nearer my God to thee do you?[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [quote name='iceonaboy' timestamp='1373799504' post='2141656'] [i]Maybe you have to stay sober in case the ship sinks and they want you to play on the maindeck to calm the passengers. You dont happen to know nearer my God to thee do you?[/i] [/quote] You really don`t want the OP to take the job, do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 It's just booze, 2 weeks without it won't be hard - I reckon if you try it you'll find it a lot easier than you may have thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1373712336' post='2140821'] Its probably for heath and safety reasons. It's not uncommon for work places with a mission-critical operations role to have a no tolerance approach to alcohol. Yes exceptions could be made in specific circumstances but at the end of the day its easier for the company to manage a blanket ban rather than get drawn into debate over the relationship between roles and booze. [/quote] A blanket ban is easier to enforce than a selective ban on the basis that being intoxicated is an either / or condition. And, to be fair, many of the jolliest stories we hear on BC involve excessive consumption of the Devil's Buttermilk. I note that the OP does not mention whether engaging in sexual intercourse with [s]passengers[/s] customers or fellow employees is also prohibited and whther such a ban is partial or total. "Bass-chappie!" "Master-at-Arms?" "Did you shag Mrs Mulwray, the Texan oil heiress last night?" "No, Sir. Tops and fingers only." "You may carry on, Bass-chappie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I can't believe that this is even a question, it's a sad reflection on society that alcohol has become that important. Also "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Its just sounds so.....Nazi to me." I think you need to re-examine German history 1935-45.[/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceonaboy Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1373817873' post='2141902'] I can't believe that this is even a question, it's a sad reflection on society that alcohol has become that important. Also "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Its just sounds so.....Nazi to me." I think you need to re-examine German history 1935-45.[/font][/color] [/quote] What do you mean has become? Its the most important thing in the whole wide world!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmanzie Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1373817873' post='2141902'] [...] Also "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Its just sounds so.....Nazi to me." I think you need to re-examine German history 1935-45.[/font][/color] [/quote] Did you not see The Young Ones in the 80s?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1373817133' post='2141890'] "Bass-chappie!" "Master-at-Arms?" "Did you shag Mrs Mulwray, the Texan oil heiress last night?" "No, Sir. Tops and fingers only." "You may carry on, Bass-chappie" [/quote] Actual LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Nonsense rule. 1. you aren't going to be driving so who cares. 2. they can't exactly throw you overboard if they catch you drinking afterhours. I'd take a wig, then go to the bar after the show, sit down looking like one of Whitesnake and get the drinks in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1373817133' post='2141890'] A blanket ban is easier to enforce than a selective ban on the basis that being intoxicated is an either / or condition. And, to be fair, many of the jolliest stories we hear on BC involve excessive consumption of the Devil's Buttermilk. I note that the OP does not mention whether engaging in sexual intercourse with [s]passengers[/s] customers or fellow employees is also prohibited and whther such a ban is partial or total. "Bass-chappie!" "Master-at-Arms?" "Did you shag Mrs Mulwray, the Texan oil heiress last night?" "No, Sir. Tops and fingers only." "You may carry on, Bass-chappie" [/quote] Indeed. Any frightful beastliness may well lead to beastly frightfulness. And it'll end up with us all going down with each other if we're not careful. Mark my words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanB Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I know a few guys who have done quite a bit of cruise work together. I honestly think that if they were offered a contract with a zero booze policy, they would turn it down. Drinking seems to have become part of the experience for them (not in a bad way, it looks like a lot of fun). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 So there are working musicians who would turn down gigs because they couldn't drink a beer? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanB Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I'm not necessarily saying that, but sometimes you're on these boats for months. It's worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceonaboy Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1373850152' post='2142304'] So there are working musicians who would turn down gigs because they couldn't drink a beer? Really? [/quote] We played at an AA dance twice and we were drinking admitedly we were doing it secretly, so as not to rub it in, but Im not spoiling my night out for anyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 [quote name='iceonaboy' timestamp='1373868823' post='2142330'] We played at an AA dance twice and we were drinking admitedly we were doing it secretly, so as not to rub it in, but Im not spoiling my night out for anyone! [/quote] If not drinking will spoil your night, you have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1373876410' post='2142398'] If not drinking will spoil your night, you have a problem. [/quote] I understand exactly where you are coming from, and perhaps my view on this is because music to me is about enjoying myself and stress relief, not a job, (even when we play weddings). But, even when I do play larger well paid gigs, the organisers usually say 'round of drinks for the band' as soon as we are set up and waiting to play. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean alcohol, and I've enjoyed myself without it countless times, but just having one alcoholic drink can make it a little less tense. It's all about knowing limits; I wouldn't get drunk. I am just a musician for the fun of it, not for a career in it, so my viewpoint may be different. Edited July 15, 2013 by Musicman20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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