stingrayPete1977 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 K&K bassmax was probably next on my buying list here on ebay, [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111117226687?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111117226687?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649[/url] Thomanns new, [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/kk_bass_max.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/kk_bass_max.htm[/url] This has caught my eye at a reasonable price and looks easier to fit tightly? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281135103052?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281135103052?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648[/url] Big saving even at the buy it now price of thomanns, [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/david_gage_the_realist_bass_life_line.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/david_gage_the_realist_bass_life_line.htm[/url] I have a J-tone fitted at the moment (the one with two black tabs in the wing slots) I dont have much output going into my Fishman so that has to be maxxed out to get anything useful, more often just feedback issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 Just noticed the realist looks like it belongs to a member here but the advert is locked at the moment? steve-norris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair Sutcliffe Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I paid £50 for a used Bassmax on Ebay Pete. On my laminate it gives a 'good enough' tone for live rock n roll. I've had no feedback issues whatsoever at loud pub-band levels. I also bought a cheap (£17) tie-clip mic from Maplins (i think) after reading this thread on TB: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f4/micing-bass-amp-882780/ This cheapo mic gave an amazing sound, but i couldn't control the feedback at gig volume. Great tone for recording though and some people have no volume issues with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 That mic looks pretty cool but I like the idea of the Bassmax from what you say, my playing is awful anyway but maybe if I could hear it then I will play better! Which wing slot do you have the Bassmax fitted to? and does it give a reasonable level of output as I think that is where my problems start, I have 3 different Genz amps and a choice of 1x10, 1x12 and a 2x12 cabs with the fishman plat pro I am hoping to get in nailed once the pickup is sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair Sutcliffe Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I've got it in the E side. I tried it on the G side but it made the G and D strings too loud compared to the E and A. The G is now a little on the quiet side but it's useable for what i do. Bear in mind that my bass is one of the cheapest available, and the weakest part of my set up is me! How compressed it is in the slot makes a world of difference to the tone so worth experimenting. It clips the input gain on my amp quite easily so no problems with volume. I've got it blended with a home-made clicky through one of those little KK preamps. I can see myself upgrading it in the future but i'm quite happy gigging with it for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 That sounds promising then as mine is super tight in both slots but nowhere near clipping any input! Might have a cheeky bid tomorrow...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeponehandloose Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 having it super tight may be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 I guess that makes sense too actually, I'm away for a few days but I well try removing a shim of cardboard from each piezo and see if it helps, does it matter if I put the card above or below the tabs? I currently have the card against the wings and the tabs against the bridge itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Pete I have the same J Tone pickups and the treble side is tighter than the bass with no noticeable difference in volume between E&A and D&G. I think the J Tone has a double peizo, back to back, in each pickup (but I could be wrong) so it shouldn't make any difference which side the cardboard is, try rubber like a piece of bicycle inner tube as a shim, I found it to give a better sound on other peizos I've fiddled with. I'm going to get a lapel mike to try, I like the sound of it and our mandolin player has been having problems with nasty peizo clatter too so it could be the answer to his problems as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The Realist Lifeline is getting some good reviews on TalkBass and fits neatly under the bridge adjuster wheel. The BassMax is pretty much the most popular pickup for loud playing though as it seems more feedback proof than other piezos. You probably wouldn't go wrong with either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'm going to have a bid later on the bass max then, if I remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 [quote name='Maude' timestamp='1373809420' post='2141809'] so it shouldn't make any difference which side the cardboard is, try rubber like a piece of bicycle inner tube as a shim, I found it to give a better sound on other peizos I've fiddled with. [/quote] I got a block of wood and shaved off some slivers, and used that as a shim. Wouldn't rubber deaden the sound ?? ....or am I missing something ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Out bid Edited July 14, 2013 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair Sutcliffe Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 A bit more cash but there's an ad for a realist hiding at the bottom of this thread http://basschat.co.uk/topic/210786-realist-double-bass-pick-up-unused-95/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 That's the guy who is selling the David gage on Ebay I think, has one on here but his advert is locked, unpaid fees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 [quote name='ChrisF' timestamp='1373813135' post='2141845'] I got a block of wood and shaved off some slivers, and used that as a shim. Wouldn't rubber deaden the sound ?? ....or am I missing something ??? [/quote] Yes I suppose it should really, I might try wood then. The 'done thing' on the Palatino/Harley Benton EUB is to put a shim of rubber under the peizo to get rid of the harshness so I just used some I had kicking around, it gave a nice gutty thump with the Rockabilly strings and Jtone so I was happy. I'll give wood a go just to see, it's good to experiment . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 [quote name='Maude' timestamp='1374009325' post='2144281'] it gave a nice gutty thump with the Rockabilly strings and Jtone so I was happy. I'll give wood a go just to see, it's good to experiment . [/quote] Indeed it is good to experiment...... I think I will give the rubber a go. I would quite like a gutty thump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo200 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I've got a realist for sale if anyone's interested? Mint £100 posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 I have fitted a k and k bass max since I started this thread, not had much chance to try it amplified yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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