Fender stamped machine heads & hootenanny button position??

[dodgnofski]

Hi Chaps, does anyone know when 'Fender' was first stamped into the machine heads of Precision Basses & has anyone ever come across the hootenanny button on the rear of the headstock being in 'various' positions?

Edited July 22, 2013 by dodgnofski

[discreet]

The Fender logo appeared on tuner backplates in the mid-60s. A registered trademark symbol was added in the early 70s. Schaller tuners were gradually introduced around 1976 until 1982.

Edited July 22, 2013 by discreet

[Brams77]

End of 1965 actually with the arrival of the oval tuners (lollypops) on jazzes, I think they went to the clover shape about 1967 on the jazzes. The jazzes always had the most modern features and the precisions always stayed a bit behind...
The trademark thing... what discreet said;)

Edited July 22, 2013 by Brams77

[dodgnofski]

Thanks Chaps,

Have you ever seen the hootenanny button on the reverse of the headstock sited lower down horizontally than the 'usual' place & more in line vertically with the worm shaft of the A tuning peg, instead of the usual 'more central' horizontally position under the shaft of the cog of the A tuner vertically - if you know what I mean!!

Edited July 22, 2013 by dodgnofski

[Myke]

Picture maybe?

[dodgnofski]

Hi again chaps here is a pic of said hootenanny button position - does it look cosha to you??

thank you

Edited July 22, 2013 by dodgnofski

[bh2]

Mine is more in the meat...

[KiOgon]

[quote name='dodgnofski' timestamp='1374509906' post='2149526']
Hi again chaps here is a pic of said hootenanny button position - does it look cosha to you??

thank you
[/quote]Looks Jap to me so could be, bh2's picture is more like 'normal' USA - IMO IME etc.etc.

Edited July 22, 2013 by KiOgon

[dodgnofski]

Must be my age accelerated OCD - but should the position/sighting of the button but me off buying this - even though the neck date looks 'very' cosha??

[discreet]

Look at the amount of headstock wood visible directly below the left lower corner of the 'D' tuner... very different in your pic to bh2's pic. [size=4]Not saying it's necessarily 'wrong' you understand... just 'different'. [/size]

Edited July 22, 2013 by discreet

[ikay]

This is a '69 P (pic from andy baxters inventory) with the D tuner also closer to the edge than usual so that's not necessarily a warning sign. The strap button looks way out to me though. I've seen slight variations in positioning but not this extreme. If everything else checks out then this may be a later addition. The strap button was discontinued sometime in 1969 according to the Fender Bass book.

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Edited July 22, 2013 by ikay

[discreet]

It's also possible someone moved it for some reason. Is there any sign of a filled hole where the button should have been?

[dodgnofski]

Can't see any evidence of a previous hole - so it's totally baffling why they would position it 'that' far out of position from 'the norm'??