iconic Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) So I'm bumbling along thinking I'm getting the hang of a little theory 'n stuff and then I find I've been playing this tune wrong, possibly? Obviously there ain't too much going on in the bassline....but I like to play the melody to it, or some would call it overplay the bassline but indulge me....and PS I love the look of the bass players Fender (?) and he simply plays a root E. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE8GDODC_1Q[/media] I 'thought' being as it's all written in Bm it would be Bm-A-Em...then i find the 3 tabs I've found list the Em I play as an E major....see here. [url="http://www.e-chords.com/chords/chris-isaak/wicked-game"]http://www.e-chords....aak/wicked-game[/url] Now of course The answer maybe that it's because Chris wrote what he wanted & he can have a E major any day of the week if he wants one...he's the song-smith not me, and so what, it sounds great. But, with my limited knowledge of theory, if I harmonise a Bm I get Bm, C dim, D major, E minor, F minor, G major, A major....yes? I've been trying to look at Mr Izaak's fingering on his geetar to see if he plays an E major or E minor, someone with better eyes and 6 string undestanding may wish to take a gander...to me @ 39 secs he looks like he is playing a F# with his middle finger, which erm looses me totally as it would be either a G for minor G# for major as a low played 3rd....even though I would think he would play an open E...maybe he uses a different tuning or something? any help most welcome gentlemen and ladies. Edited July 22, 2013 by iconic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 E Major mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think there's Bm, A6 in there and then E and Esus4. Certainly on the recorded version, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 It's not pedantic, it's mixolydian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1374527257' post='2149833'] E Major mate. [/quote] what the key?...wouldn't that make the B a major if harmonised as 'normal' though? ...hang on found the sheet music...it is an E major! ...is there a reason would he would have an E major and not a minor, in that is that quite a common thing to do, have a the 4th in a minor scale being major not minor? cheers guys Edited July 22, 2013 by iconic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 [quote name='iconic' timestamp='1374532349' post='2149913'] what the key?...wouldn't that make the B a major if harmonised as 'normal' though? ..strange the sheet music said Bm too? [/quote] I think you need to remember songs are built on musical feelings, not theoretical rules. It sounds nice, and it's probably built on a mode, B Dorian I think, the second mode of the major scale, it's a minor mode, seems to me the E is major but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1374532846' post='2149923'] I think you need to remember songs are built on musical feelings, not theoretical rules. It sounds nice, and it's probably built on a mode, B Dorian I think, the second mode of the major scale, it's a minor mode, seems to me the E is major but I could be wrong. [/quote] sorry I change that while you must of been replying, yes you ar right, cheers for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 [quote name='iconic' timestamp='1374533109' post='2149928'] sorry I change that while you must of been replying, yes you ar right, cheers for the help. [/quote] Can you hear the key centre in those chords? I mean, can you tell that Bm (albeit with a sharp 6th) is the key? Rather than E Maj or B Maj? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erictheweary Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 It is a very minor sounding song though isn't it? Never tried to play it but whoever wrote the sheet music calling it E major might well be wrong, or may be easier to write it out in Emajor rather than Bminor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 It's E mixolydian. It resolves to an E, but the key signature would have you in A major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 You are correct the [u][i][b]'key signature' [/b][/i][/u]would have me believe its in A major what with those F#, C# and G#s. ....now if only they wrote..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 [quote name='iconic' timestamp='1374857599' post='2154174'] You are correct the [u][i][b]'key signature' [/b][/i][/u]would have me believe its in A major what with those F#, C# and G#s. ....now if only they wrote..... [/quote] Ah, but they have! Honestly, it makes not one bit of difference if you treat it modally or as A major... the bassline should follow the harmonic progression and take any passing tones from the key centre. Which should have exactly the same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1374858792' post='2154196'] Ah, but they have! Honestly, it makes not one bit of difference if you treat it modally or as A major... the bassline should follow the harmonic progression and take any passing tones from the key centre. Which should have exactly the same effect. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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