TheMissWolfiee Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Saw this on gumtree and was wondering if it was really worth the asking price? I own a 2005 Made in USA Sub 5 and didnt pay nearly as much for it (possibly more worn cosmetically but still)... Anyway, thoughts? http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/musicman-sub-bass-guitar-5-string-very-rare/1026648173#photo-content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 He'll get nowhere near that. Even good-condition ones go for substantially less than £500 in the current market - IMO they ARE actually worth that, they're great basses, but some of us remember them being sold new for around £400 when they were discontinued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 How far back do you go? Can I buy a 70s p bass a few hundred pound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Well, I appreciate THAT the SUBs will probably appreciate in value nicely over the next ten or twenty years, but asking an extra couple of hundred quid at least on top of what a bass was going for new less than ten years ago is taking the piss a smidge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 People generally suggest £350 for 4 string ones so a five string with a case and a stand can't be that far off £425-450 surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 That'd be fair! Shame he's asking £250 more than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierreganseman Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 i've seen 5 go for 400 + - and 4 for 375 .... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 [quote name='Ian Savage' timestamp='1375549927' post='2162844'] That'd be fair! Shame he's asking £250 more than that [/quote] I appologise! I saw £500 for some reason, just looked again £675, I agree no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubis Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 There's one on ebay at £700 presently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMissWolfiee Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 I was just wondering as I was thinking of selling mine - though I was thinking of no-where near that price I agree with £400 being the around about benchmark - must be the thrown in 'rare' which makes up for the extra £250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Great basses and I'm sure they'll be sought after but not for stingray money. Wasn't there a white one on here recently for about three fifty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Great basses, well built but at the end of the day, not as well built with poorer woods than real Stingrays. For that reason, they don't now, nor ever will, be close to the value of said real stringray. £450 absolute tops. Easy to make comparisons to the JV Squiers in terms of value increase in the future (value of those still completely baffles me) however the difference is the Stingray's being made at the same time as these were better, and i would say they were selling at no more than£700 really at the moment. So £675 for this is a joke! The only thing that these may have had going for them was that they were 5 string stingrays that were in the classic format. Now that EB have brought out the new Classic series, its lost that unique factor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMissWolfiee Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 When I bought mine I was told by the seller is was Basswood - however when I went to get it set-up the Luther (The String Surgeon in Horbury) told me it was actually a 2 piece Alder body - I was looking to get it stripped/re-finished at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 [quote name='Kev' timestamp='1375571379' post='2163132'] Great basses, well built but at the end of the day, not as well built with poorer woods than real Stingrays. For that reason, they don't now, nor ever will, be close to the value of said real stringray. £450 absolute tops. Easy to make comparisons to the JV Squiers in terms of value increase in the future (value of those still completely baffles me) however the difference is the Stingray's being made at the same time as these were better, and i would say they were selling at no more than£700 really at the moment. So £675 for this is a joke! The only thing that these may have had going for them was that they were 5 string stingrays that were in the classic format. Now that EB have brought out the new Classic series, its lost that unique factor! [/quote] I agree, heaven knows why the sr5 didnt look like the sub 5 in the first place!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 [quote name='TheMissWolfiee' timestamp='1375576300' post='2163167'] When I bought mine I was told by the seller is was Basswood - however when I went to get it set-up the Luther (The String Surgeon in Horbury) told me it was actually a 2 piece Alder body - I was looking to get it stripped/re-finished at the time [/quote] They were advertised as being basswood. Or was it poplar? One of the two. But EBMM seem quite inconsistent with the SUB line (pickups in series or in parallel? see below) so I would not be surprised if at some point they built a few with other woods if it was convenient. Lovely basses. Are they worth £675? I'd say yes... Would I pay £675? Most definitely not, as the going rate for them seems quite a bit lower, so I'd look for another. I bought my SUB5 for £350 3 years ago, but that was a low price even then. £400-450 seems more like it these days, with the 4 string version a bit less than that 9I paid £415 for my white one, which was immaculate except two tunes that got bent in transit, and I got the seller to pay for the replacements... I wanted a white one and was not willing to wait, so I paid a bit more than I could have... and recently I paid £350 for my wine red one) Is a modern Stingray better than those SUBs? Maybe. I don't know for sure. But they did not make SUBs with maple fingerboards and the Stingrays have prettier finishes... so I will still keep my Stingray, but there really isn't anything between them. The build is certainly just as good, just the finish is different and the bridge/tuners may be different (they are not MusicMan stamped). The late SUBs (2005 and 2006) have the same compensated nuts the Stingrays did at the time. The preamp is the same, and so are the pickups... although it seems that some were wired in parallel (as in a Stingray) and some in series, who knows why? My SUBs are one of each, the early one from 2003 is series, and my 2006 one is parallel. I personally love the punch of the series configuration, I think it complements the 2EQ better than in parallel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 [quote name='TheMissWolfiee' timestamp='1375545293' post='2162762'] Saw this on gumtree and was wondering if it was really worth the asking price? I own a 2005 Made in USA Sub 5 and didnt pay nearly as much for it (possibly more worn cosmetically but still)... Anyway, thoughts? [url="http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/musicman-sub-bass-guitar-5-string-very-rare/1026648173#photo-content"]http://www.gumtree.c...3#photo-content[/url] [/quote] If it sells at that price then the price is justified. If not then it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1375616081' post='2163420'] They were advertised as being basswood. Or was it poplar? [/quote] Poplar, if memory serves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They were too poplar, that's why they stopped making them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1375705382' post='2164460'] They were too poplar, that's why they stopped making them [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi 2 kenobi Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 [quote name='TheMissWolfiee' timestamp='1375545293' post='2162762'] Saw this on gumtree and was wondering if it was really worth the asking price? I own a 2005 Made in USA Sub 5 and didnt pay nearly as much for it (possibly more worn cosmetically but still)... Anyway, thoughts? [url="http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/musicman-sub-bass-guitar-5-string-very-rare/1026648173#photo-content"]http://www.gumtree.c...3#photo-content[/url] [/quote] Short answer = No. Why ? Because I bought a proper Stingray 5 for £650 a month ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1375707846' post='2164514'] [/quote] couldn't resist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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