ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Thought I would just start a thread on Bottesini - the 'Paganini of the Double Bass' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Found this bit of background reading from Thomas Martin ( no less ! ) really fascinating so thought I would share http://www.thomasmartin.co.uk/double-bass-home/bottesini?limitstart=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 ...and a link to some [url="http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Bottesini,_Giovanni"]free scores[/url] ( including the original [url="http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/d/de/IMSLP254239-PMLP412020-GBottesini_Contrabass_Method_BNE.pdf"]Grande Methode[/url] ) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) ...no introduction needed ...Rinat Ibragimov playing on a traditional 3 string . [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgZ_-f7pVk4[/media] Edited August 15, 2013 by ubassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandShef Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Ooh, thank you! Just downloaded Reverie to have a go at! I'll bookmark that page too, so I can work my way through the others (I've already got the two Method books, which I think are great). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 His elegy was the first solo piece i tackled after Verdi's rigoletto. I don't think i'm ever going to have it perfect even for a piece that isn't to challenging. Maybe we should together a list o the best bottesini recordings for learning purpose's. Tom martins Elegy defiantly stands out as one of the best. Also anyone heard his opera?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 [quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1376572914' post='2176248'] Maybe we should together a list o the best bottesini recordings for learning purpose's. Tom martins Elegy defiantly stands out as one of the best. [/quote] Great idea ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 La Sonnambula ...gorgeous from the first note !! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzAcAYts7g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzAcAYts7g[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 The Elegy [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJLN43M-RGE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJLN43M-RGE[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVbCzwhWIMk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVbCzwhWIMk[/url] This is the only youtube version of the rand duo done properly with two double bass's. Not very good quality though. Rinat: With violin [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpcIfoujVP8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpcIfoujVP8[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 ...must be something quite extraordinary to have a wife who can play like that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WMO0nJRWAM[/media] Am I doing this right? I'm a jazz guy. Edited August 15, 2013 by Hector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 [quote name='Hector' timestamp='1376582105' post='2176458'] Am I doing this right? I'm a jazz guy. [/quote] shhhh no one will notice ! ( ...not seen that version of the Gran Duetto - absolutely brilliant and stunningly good playing ! ...enjoyed that !! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandShef Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 [quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1376580686' post='2176417'] ...must be something quite extraordinary to have a wife who can play like that ! [/quote] Alina is Rinat's daughter - she's obviously inherited his musical talent. I've found a vid of Reverie to add to the list: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f7IwDEnEVk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f7IwDEnEVk[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 [quote name='MandShef' timestamp='1376596802' post='2176716'] Alina is Rinat's daughter - she's obviously inherited his musical talent. [/quote] oops! ( ....quickly thinking of a way to save face) ......still, notwithstanding that, ....must be something quite extraordinary to have a wife who can play like that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLoydElgar Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Duncan my man! He's just top notch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2phOd3xp1kk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnxFR-y2nQA[/media] seems to be a very popular one to play. This ^ ones a bit messy. Edited August 16, 2013 by fatgoogle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) The virtuoso stuff is all inspirational to listen to Found this link to Mark Urness who has covered the first 21 exercises of Bottesini's Method books no 1 - heres no 18 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_uCBXZcU8s&feature=c4-overview&list=UUrPG-KiJer9VlMvG_SXpz_Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_uCBXZcU8s&feature=c4-overview&list=UUrPG-KiJer9VlMvG_SXpz_Q[/url] Edited August 17, 2013 by ubassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 Interestingly I play no18 very differently - starting in 3rd position rather than 1st ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I play it in similar positions but with more dynamic difference. I think its important to turn exercises into pieces of music. Generally in a more Italian style of making the highest note the loudest. Considering as well his solo repertoire is quite operatic at times i feel you can also be a little bit free with the tempo. Not crazy but slow it down to build it back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynkHKQONnqQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynkHKQONnqQ[/url] Never heard of it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 ...Id like to know who sweet talked Edicson Ruiz to play in the quintet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 [quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1376741484' post='2178551'] I play it in similar positions but with more dynamic difference. I think its important to turn exercises into pieces of music. Generally in a more Italian style of making the highest note the loudest. Considering as well his solo repertoire is quite operatic at times i feel you can also be a little bit free with the tempo. Not crazy but slow it down to build it back up. [/quote] I started playing No18 in 1st but then thought I would try it in 3rd and came to the conclusion that whist 3rd gives you more complicated shifts it allows for vibrato and more colour . What I like is that it also then leaves a place to go with the dynamics and tone variation when the first bar theme comes back in later i.e. 2nd time round I give it a more edgy and emphatic 'Forte' feel with the open D . First time round its a bit more pensive. Thats what I love about Bottesini - there's nearly always a set of 'money notes' in every exercise and they call out for a bit of lyrical interpretation ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Gary Karr. Doing whatever it is he does......... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuKYI12gVW4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuKYI12gVW4[/url] Maybe a tad under rehearsed but brilliant and a sense of performance which not many soloists offer the audience these days. The accompanist is brilliant i think. My favorite conductors that ive played under have always had a bit of showmanship which means the audience is also entertained while listening and i think this has led to the best performance's of the orchestra's ive played in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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