dincz Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I've got a nice clean rig that I'm usually very happy with but there are times when I miss the slightly farty sound of a slightly overdriven speaker. Pedals I've heard seem to produce a fizzy, sizzling kind of fuzz. Is there anything that will simulate the sound of a speaker on the verge of breakup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Isn't that what an overdrive on a low setting does? I have my Bass Murf set with a bt of drive & it gives a nice bit of grit to the sound. Not fuzz or distortion, but just that bit of "push". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Sansamp variants sort of do it. The speaker breakup is considered, flavours though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 http://www.catalinbread.com/SFT This should do it nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Pretty much any low-gain pedal will do what you want, its just a case of finding a pedal that sounds good to your ears......there are a LOT of options Some good places to start for low-gain: Wren & Cuff Phat Phuk Fuzzrocious Dark Driving/BDPG/Ram The Manparts Xotic BB Bass Pre Mad Professor Blueberry Overdrive COG Knightfall Fulltone OCD So many more! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswareham Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 The Ibanez Tone Lok series includes at least one fuzz pedal with a multi position switch that introduces increasing amounts of "speaker damage" into the tone. Not used one myself, but the bass player from London band Generation Graveyard uses one of the Ibanez Tone Loks to get a great distortion sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) - Edited February 19, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 [quote name='Mog' timestamp='1377152184' post='2183927'] [url="http://www.catalinbread.com/SFT"]http://www.catalinbread.com/SFT[/url] This should do it nicely [/quote] Definitely, especially the original MkI version with the chunky white knobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 BDI-21. £26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkin Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1377179280' post='2184392'] BDI-21. £26. [/quote] Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 there are a couple of sounds on the Renegades album by RATM which really do sound like a speaker breaking up. I don't liken this to any overdrive pedal I've ever heard - which sound more like an amp distorting than a speaker breaking. Anyone know what I'm on about? And how he got that sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dincz Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Some avenues for me to explore - thanks. I've already got a BDI-21 but I can only get fizzy distortion from it rather than the lower frequency grunt I'm looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.i.stein Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) if you can afford one, put yourself on the waiting list for an F.E.A. Labs Dual-Band-Distortion. it's more of a crossover-based overdrive. you can dial in anything, in fact, it's almost got too much control. http://www.fealabs.com/products/DBD-0001.html oh NO, sorry they've stopped doing them !!! ok, so mine has now raised in price ! fantastic kit for a clean amp-user like me. keep an eye out for a used one. Edited August 22, 2013 by phil.i.stein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Lower frequency grunt describes the SFT to a tee. You dig in harder and it has a nice throaty roar like putting your foot down with a big V8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Mesa flux drive is probs worth a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dincz Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1377200484' post='2184787'] Lower frequency grunt describes the SFT to a tee. You dig in harder and it has a nice throaty roar like putting your foot down with a big V8! [/quote] That sounds like what I'm after! Funnily enough, I bought a PCB last year for a DIY SFT clone to build in my spare time. The spare time has worked really well - shovel loads of it but I'm chronically lazy I know - /sympathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GremlinAndy Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Try the microtube vintage. I also have the B3k and just dont get on with it because it's got that fizzy sound (to my ears) which I dont like. The vintage is just usable on all settings. I also have Sansamp, a Tonehammer, an Agro and others, all of which sounded fizzy. Borrow a Vintage, see if that is what you're after. Edit: In fairness I'm not describing speaker overdrive, but if you want something which doesn't fizz, maybe that's whats important. Edited August 23, 2013 by GremlinAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dincz Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 This was useful: http://johnbscott.com/preamp_shootout/ I prefer the SFT closely followed by the Tonehammer and given the price of the TH and that I've got the required PCB and FETs already, it's time to get out the soldering iron and build the SFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1377186424' post='2184526'] there are a couple of sounds on the Renegades album by RATM which really do sound like a speaker breaking up. I don't liken this to any overdrive pedal I've ever heard - which sound more like an amp distorting than a speaker breaking. Anyone know what I'm on about? And how he got that sound? [/quote] No speaker breaking up but Tim C's recorded sound relies heavily on his cabs as well as modified amps. Around then in sure he was using 3 SVTs of somekind. 1 ran clean, around this time it's a very woolly thump, lots of highs have been cut, the other two set with increasingly more distortion. I've tried to get close to his Evil Empire sound, with my pedal board. One clean channel mixed with overdrive, using two BB preamps. 1khz boost too, brings out drive well. Could get a rebegades sound if I had an EQ on the clean channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1377286348' post='2185939'] No speaker breaking up but Tim C's recorded sound relies heavily on his cabs as well as modified amps. Around then in sure he was using 3 SVTs of somekind. 1 ran clean, around this time it's a very woolly thump, lots of highs have been cut, the other two set with increasingly more distortion. I've tried to get close to his Evil Empire sound, with my pedal board. One clean channel mixed with overdrive, using two BB preamps. 1khz boost too, brings out drive well. Could get a rebegades sound if I had an EQ on the clean channel. [/quote] I'm a big fan of his sound, and have read all about how it's done etc. I can do Evil Empire with a TS clone blended with some parallel compression and EQ. The sounds on Renegades that I'm on about are something else. I'll have to give it a listen and point out a specific section. It's not like anything he does on other albums, it sounds just like when you put too much low end through a crappy cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 This is the thing, as everyone knows, trying to emulate multiple amp/cab/pedal setups simply with a few pedals is incredibly difficult. People report that even the Billy Sheehan pedal doesn't really get his sound, as it's a combination of so many things.....plus the player themselves. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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