registering a domain name.

[funkgod]

Could anyone give sound advice on registering a domain name please ?

I have this morning been trying to reg a name for a new site www.funkbass.com
when i have been onto various registering sites 123 etc, they say its available, and to go to the checkout and pay.
then just before i press the buttons to pay i thought al check myself, so i type www.funkbass.com.
into the search bar at the top and low and behold a site has been created !!!,
now when i go to some of the sites that perviously said it was free are now saying its in use !!
but 123 are still saying its free and pay..
almost as if 123 have put a site up to stop someone else getting it till i have paid, ( which they have not,...... have they ??)

can anyone give me clear steps to do this, or the 1 or 2 sites that dont mess around ?

Thanks

breath in.... breath out..... and..... unstress........

Edited September 12, 2013 by funkgod

[andydye]

[quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1378986744' post='2207348']
Could anyone give sound advice on registering a domain name please ?

I have this morning been trying to reg a name for a new site www.funkbass.com
when i have been onto various registering sites 123 etc, they say its available, and to go to the checkout and pay.
then just before i press the buttons to pay i thought al check myself, so i type www.funkbass.com.
into the search bar at the top and low and behold a site has been created !!!,
now when i go to some of the sites that perviously said it was free are now saying its in use !!
but 123 are still saying its free and pay..
almost as if 123 have put a site up to stop someone else getting it till i have paid, ( which they have not,...... have they ??)

can anyone give me clear steps to do this, or the 1 or 2 sites that dont mess around ?

Thanks

breath in.... breath out..... and..... unstress........
[/quote]

it looks like a holding page to me?

[url="http://www.funkbass.com/"]http://www.funkbass.com/[/url]

[funkgod]

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1378987075' post='2207356']
it looks like a holding page to me?

[url="http://www.funkbass.com/"]http://www.funkbass.com/[/url]
[/quote]

Hi Andy

Sorry im new to this,
a holding page ??
is thats whats created when you are going through the paying stage ???
thanks

[davehux]

Use the Whois service to see if a domain name has already been registered. Looking at yours - [url="http://whois.net/whois/funkbass.com"]http://whois.net/whois/funkbass.com[/url] it seems it is registered to a holding company in the Cayman Islands. But if you check thefunkbass.com - [url="http://whois.net/whois/thefunkbass.com"]http://whois.net/whois/thefunkbass.com[/url] you can see that is is available

If it's a .co.uk address, you can use [url="http://www.nominet.org.uk/"]http://www.nominet.org.uk/[/url] who do the same service for UK domains

Edited September 12, 2013 by davehux

[zero9]

I've used 1and1.co.uk to register and check available domain names. Always worked for me.

[andydye]

[quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1378987635' post='2207363']
Hi Andy

Sorry im new to this,
a holding page ??
is thats whats created when you are going through the paying stage ???
thanks
[/quote]

I'm not entirely sure about this but here goes a sensible-ish sounding set of logic:

...a domain seller 'buys' / assumes the rights to loads of domains and puts their 'temporary page' or 'holding page' there so that no-one else can snag it as it already 'belongs' to them, they then try to sell that domain name...hey presto 'domain retail'!?

[bartelby]

Looks like Funkbass.com was created in 2004:


WHOIS information for [url="http://funkbass.com/"]funkbass.com[/url]:***


[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.iregistry.com]
[Querying whois.iregistry.com]
[whois.iregistry.com]
Registrant:
Name Administration Inc. (BVI)
Box 10518 A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands B.W.I.
KY
Domain name: FUNKBASS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Domain, Administrator [email protected]
Box 10518 A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands B.W.I.
KY
+1.345.946.6879
Technical Contact:
Domain, Administrator [email protected]
Box 10518 A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands B.W.I.
KY
+1.345.946.6879
Registrar of Record: iRegistry
Record last updated on 21-Mar-2013.
Record expires on 03-Sep-2016.
[b]Record created on 03-Sep-2004.[/b]
Domain servers in listed order:
NS2.HOSTINGNET.COM
NS1.HOSTINGNET.COM
Domain status: clientDeleteProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited
INQUIRE ON THIS DOMAIN at DomainNameSales.com or call 1-800-818-1828


So basically what [url="http://basschat.co.uk/user/17070-andydye/"][color="#282828"]andydye[/color][/url] says

Edited September 12, 2013 by bartelby

[Moose]

funkbass.com is registered to a company whose address is in the Cayman Islands. Most likely they buy and sell domain names and for the right price, they will sell it to you. Be prepared to spend several hundred pounds though.

Regards,
Chris

[bertbass]

Try www.easily.co.uk. I find them excellent.

[thisnameistaken]

[quote name='Moose' timestamp='1378988476' post='2207377']
funkbass.com is registered to a company whose address is in the Cayman Islands. Most likely they buy and sell domain names and for the right price, they will sell it to you. Be prepared to spend several hundred pounds though.

Regards,
Chris
[/quote]

This. Many, many years ago all the most likely (and many unlikely) combinations of english words were registered and sat on by chancers like these guys. Which is why a lot of familiar big-name websites from small start-ups (flickr, tumblr, etcr!) have misspelled names.

[tedmanzie]

[b]flunkbass.com[/b] is available!

[BassTractor]

BTW, use WHOIS or a trusted registrar to check domain names and avoid trouble with shady companies claiming them if they think it's generic enough to take the risk.

[borisbrain]

funk-bass.co.uk (note the hyphen) is available, but the .com has also been parked for sale...

BB

[Stephen Houghton]

I use Namehog to buy and host domain names and hosting packages, they are cheap and really good, good customer service too.

Edited September 13, 2013 by Stephen Houghton

[steve-bbb]

[quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1378986744' post='2207348']
Could anyone give sound advice on registering a domain name please ?

I have this morning been trying to reg a name for a new site www.funkbass.com
when i have been onto various registering sites 123 etc, they say its available, and to go to the checkout and pay.
then just before i press the buttons to pay i thought al check myself, so i type www.funkbass.com.
into the search bar at the top and low and behold a site has been created !!!,
now when i go to some of the sites that perviously said it was free are now saying its in use !!
but 123 are still saying its free and pay..
almost as if 123 have put a site up to stop someone else getting it till i have paid, ( which they have not,...... have they ??)

can anyone give me clear steps to do this, or the 1 or 2 sites that dont mess around ?

Thanks

breath in.... breath out..... and..... unstress........
[/quote]

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1378987897' post='2207369']
I'm not entirely sure about this but here goes a sensible-ish sounding set of logic:

...a domain seller 'buys' / assumes the rights to loads of domains and puts their 'temporary page' or 'holding page' there so that no-one else can snag it as it already 'belongs' to them, they then try to sell that domain name...hey presto 'domain retail'!?
[/quote]

+1

when you search to see whether a name you want is available the golden rule is not to type in the box which says CHECK HERE TO SEE IF YOUR DOMAIN NAME IS AVAILABLE

if you do this then they will check it and if it is available you will only have a very limited time until it is magically sniped

this is nothing new this practice has been going on for years - i discovered this mistake back in late 90s when searching for availability and the name had been bought within 24 hours - in the early days of the interwebs the sniping worked in everybodys favour so that joebloggs could register tescosupermarket.com and then attempt to sell it for a very fast and large wedge. More recently they have introduced rules on name registration that you can only register a name for a business if you can demonstrate connection or authorisation from that business.

if you need to search whether a domain name is available best thing is to just type it into the address bar of your browser and see what results . whois search could also work but personally i wouldnt even trust that 100% but then i am a rather old and hardened cynic these days

[juliusmonk]

I use namecheap.com and, despite the name, I find them excellent

[Guest bassman7755]

[url="http://freeparking.co.uk"]http://freeparking.co.uk[/url]

Edited September 13, 2013 by bassman7755

[barkin]

Registering and administering your own domain/s is pretty straightforward nowadays, but I'd still recommend doing some homework first.

Take a look around at lots of different providers of the service - some offer standard features that may not be available with others, or may be a chargeable option.
Will you be needing a hosting package as well as simple domain name registration? Do the available hosting options provide eg the email functionality the you need? etc.

Of course there's no need to buy domain registration and hosting from the same provider, but it could be cheaper, or simply make billing and account management easier...or any number of other reasons for/against.


FWIW, I use tsohost.co.uk

[Westie9]

Excellent topic: I've had a similar 'nightmare. Can anyone tell me what benefits are there for being on the WHOIS register please? I have several domains listed and it shows my home address and details by just clicking on a few buttons. This is something I don't want open to anyone and everyone. How easy is it to be taken off this register or shown as the equivalent as ex-directory and what drawbacks if any would this present by coming off?

Sorry Funkgod if this seems as though I'm high jacking your thread but domain registration etc appears to be a minefield.....

[barkin]

It depends on the top level domain.

For some .uk domains (eg .co.uk, but check Nominet for chapter and verse) you can only opt-out if you're a private individual, as opposed to a business. Some registration agents offer the choice at sign-up.

[url="http://www.nominet.org.uk/uk-domain-names/about-domain-names/domain-lookup-whois/opt-out"]http://www.nominet.o...p-whois/opt-out[/url]

The rules for other TLDs are different.

I don't think you can opt out of the WHOIS for IANA maintained gTLDs - eg .com, .net, .org and some others. One way around that it to register the domain via a proxy, so that a WHOIS lookup shows their details rather than yours (which can lead to a whole different can of worms...do you actually own the domain etc)

Edited September 13, 2013 by barkin

[Westie9]

Thanks barkin. They are up for renewal soon so I'll see if I can do something with them...

[12stringbassist]

I've just checked it out with the people I always use on http://www.lcn.com/whois/search?s=funkbass&commit=

I'd just buy the .org name.

Hope that helps.

[funkgod]

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1379054642' post='2208087']
+1

when you search to see whether a name you want is available the golden rule is not to type in the box which says CHECK HERE TO SEE IF YOUR DOMAIN NAME IS AVAILABLE

if you do this then they will check it and if it is available you will only have a very limited time until it is magically sniped

this is nothing new this practice has been going on for years - i discovered this mistake back in late 90s when searching for availability and the name had been bought within 24 hours - in the early days of the interwebs the sniping worked in everybodys favour so that joebloggs could register tescosupermarket.com and then attempt to sell it for a very fast and large wedge. More recently they have introduced rules on name registration that you can only register a name for a business if you can demonstrate connection or authorisation from that business.

if you need to search whether a domain name is available best thing is to just type it into the address bar of your browser and see what results . whois search could also work but personally i wouldnt even trust that 100% but then i am a rather old and hardened cynic these days
[/quote]


Thanks for all your comments, im Just catching up on them all from yesterday,
very helpfull.
steve... i had a feeling something like this was going on, as i am sure the site was not up before.
but i could have missed it.
as bartelby says it was created in 2004, dont know why i missed that, or rather it did not come up.
To confuse me further i was talking to someone else today that said that typing the web address in the search
bar what comes up also depends on what search engine you are with ?
oh well, i will do some home work, i will have a look at all the suggestions, thank you all very much,