lowdown Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Just been doing some work for someone, and I had to revisit some Orchestration techniques before I made an Ass of myself, and thankfully this site came in useful. So if you want to do some serious Orchestral orchestration study - This site is for you. It's from the Rimsky Korsakov books, but it is laid out very well with all the Audio examples. Each section can be taken at your own pace, or just pick sections out at random. It's all pretty serious stuff. [url="http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/77-Principles-of-Orchestration-On-line"]http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/77-Principles-of-Orchestration-On-line[/url] Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Cheers Garry , I have made a 'note' of that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Wow! Have the book but this is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Superb! Cheers Garry. Very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 As if I didn't have enough stuff to wade through..! Thanks for posting; very interesting. It's going to take me a while, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1379963912' post='2218870'] [size=4]It's going to take me a while, though...[/size] [/quote] Not really....There is something for everyone, and this section might be right up your Rue. "[color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3][i]An insignificant and playful rhythm is suitable to the triangle[/i]"[/size][/font][/color] [size=4] [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1379964937' post='2218899']..."[color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3][i]An insignificant and playful rhythm is suitable to the triangle[/i]"[/size][/font][/color]...[/quote] The humble triangle is often under-estimated in its emotive power and ability to 'drive' a full orchestral piece to frenzy. Well-arranged, such choice parts are reserved for the more experienced percussionists. I often weep just at the thought... Edited September 23, 2013 by Dad3353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Nice one Garry, I did a gig at the St James theatre last night with a few west end singers and writers/producers and we were joined by Graham Gouldman and Gary Kemp towards the end... (I will get to the point!) We played a song from Soho cinders called 'Remember Us' which was written by George Stiles, for piano, bass, gtr and girl boy vox, it was really beautifully arranged, with me playing some sections of the melody (14th fret environs featured a bit for a sight reading sweat!) to a guitar pno ostinato then into full on loping 6/8 bass parts. It was an absolute pleasure to play, mostly becuase every detail of the orchestration had been thought about.... Makes all the difference even with that small an ensemble. Edited September 23, 2013 by jakenewmanbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1379965589' post='2218915'] [size=4]It was an absolute pleasure to play, mostly because every detail of the orchestration had been thought about.... Makes all the difference even with that small an ensemble.[/size] [/quote] Great when that happens, you can play everything with solid confidence, and know everyone else will be 'on it' as well. Good one mate. Glad some folks might find the site useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brensabre79 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Awesome online resource! You should check out the Walter Piston book on orchestration if you can. In many ways it has superseded the RK Edited September 27, 2013 by brensabre79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Oh wow.... That going to take me months to wade through, and I'll probably only understand bits of it, but still what a humongous resource! [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1379965426' post='2218910'] The humble triangle is often under-estimated in its emotive power and ability to 'drive' a full orchestral piece to frenzy. Well-arranged, such choice parts are reserved for the more experienced percussionists. I often weep just at the thought... [/quote] Triangle played well (with full use of choking and all that gubbins) is a brilliant sound in my band, our percussionist is adept at taking his triangle and using it to lay a really neat pulse across 'darker' dynamic sections, totally brilliant, and lets the drummer ease right back on his kit and just accent things. I guess we arent the average funk band playing Play That Funky Music mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 [quote name='brensabre79' timestamp='1380277263' post='2223093'] [size=4]You should check out the Walter Piston book on orchestration if you can. In many ways it has superseded the RK[/size] [/quote] I have a Hard back copy of this (handed down) and yep it is great. I noticed a couple of times on Ebay in the past, that it fetched over 300 quid... [size=4] [/size] [size=4]Garry[/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brensabre79 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1379965426' post='2218910'] The humble triangle is often under-estimated in its emotive power and ability to 'drive' a full orchestral piece to frenzy. Well-arranged, such choice parts are reserved for the more experienced percussionists. I often weep just at the thought... [/quote] My dad once knew a percussionist who was a 'triangle specialist', I must admit my knee jerk reaction was "I bet he's not a rich man" but having heard him play, I can honestly say I was staggered by what it is possible to do with such a mundane instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 [quote name='brensabre79' timestamp='1380284832' post='2223255'] My dad once knew a percussionist who was a 'triangle specialist', I must admit my knee jerk reaction was "I bet he's not a rich man" but having heard him play, I can honestly say I was staggered by what it is possible to do with such a mundane instrument. [/quote] Our percussionist is a specialist in a particular form of deep Turkish tambourine, he makes it sound like everything from congas and timbale to splash cymbals, and the rhythms he can produce and evenly maintain for minutes at a time make my jaw drop.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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