Yikes who needs an expert !

[ubassman]

This from Expert Village on t'internet !

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKyf1smYvpU[/media]

Edited September 28, 2013 by ubassman

[Hector]

Watching this I feel a strange mixture of loathing, amusement, and pity that I can't find a word for.

http://youtu.be/kx_XWq7dAQs

"Expert" village indeed.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Hector

[Rabbie]

Not nice

Edited September 29, 2013 by Rabbie

[ubassman]

[quote name='Hector' timestamp='1380413919' post='2225063']
Watching this I feel a strange mixture of loathing, amusement, and pity that I can't find a word for. This guy's obviously a few bars short of the full symphony:

[media]http://youtu.be/kx_XWq7dAQs[/media]

"Expert" village indeed.
[/quote]

Edited September 29, 2013 by ubassman

[Hector]

[quote name='Rabbie' timestamp='1380444361' post='2225180']
Not nice
[/quote]

As in my posting that video? If so, apologies for any offense caused - only posted in the spirit of fun.

[Rabbie]

Just the bit about being short of the full symphony. Bit below the belt, but I know you didn't mean it with any malice, sorry.

[ubassman]

There are apparently 3 phases to learning:

1/. Awareness - AKA the "talk the talk phase" where you know what to do , but haven't acquired the skill yet to demonstrate the skill
2/. Practice - starting to "walk the walk" phase , where you put in the hours to nail what you are aware and can demonstrate the concept
3/. Acquired skill - where you just do the skill correctly automatically, effortlessly and with invisible skill i.e. can "talk the talk and can walk the walk"

As with everything on the net theres good and bad experts but I guess it can be very difficult for a beginner to know the difference .

[Hector]

[quote name='Rabbie' timestamp='1380447543' post='2225262']
Just the bit about being short of the full symphony. Bit below the belt, but I know you didn't mean it with any malice, sorry.
[/quote]

Edited regardless. Did not intend to sound quite so mean.....

[Dad3353]

[quote name='Hector' timestamp='1380452388' post='2225368']
Edited regardless. Did not intend to sound quite so mean.....
[/quote]

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Well done, Hector, that's very much in the spirit of the forum. You have just won an MBP (Moderator Brownie Point...).

[Rabbie]

Good on you Hector. Takes a gentleman to be a gentleman.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Rabbie

[ubassman]

Interestingly we've all modified our posts to tame them down so far !

[ubassman]

So, open question... when is an 'expert' clearly not an 'expert?

[jakenewmanbass]

It's difficult to know, I've been playing DB for 32 yeas but there are areas in which I would not dare to try to advise others.
I do teach DB but with a definite err on the side of foundation technique followed by a leaning towards jazz/pizz
I can show people how to do rudimentary stuff with a bow but the moment a student shows an interest in serious classical repertoire I say, 'off you go to an orchestral player'
The bow grip in the first video leaves me speechless....

Edited September 29, 2013 by jakenewmanbass

[Beer of the Bass]

[quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1380455090' post='2225426']
So, open question... when is an 'expert' clearly not an 'expert?
[/quote]
The only time I've come across these Expert Village videos is when people have posted them on forums as an example of how not to do things. This is not just in bass playing either, it happens across the board. I think these are people who are not competent enough to accurately judge their own level of competence.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Beer of the Bass

[FLoydElgar]

YOLO with a death grip.

[Rabbie]

Dunno what makes a real expert, but I sure hope the "village experts" don't start posting videos on surgical procedures....

[sarah thomas]

In the ukulele world, Expert Village became synonymous with Bad Advice.

[marvin spangles]

Love it!