okusman Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Having sold our passive PA system, the band is humming and harring about an active system to buy...in essence 4 boxes!!! Gigs usually up to 200 people, needs to be bi-amp system, compact and sound great. It's mainly for vocals, keys and reinforcement of the rest of us. We have about £3500 burning a whole the band kitty.... Options seem to be: FBT ProMaxX, RCF 7 series, QSC K series, or Turbosound Milans. Any input/experience/ideas/definite choices really appreciated... Thanks Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Assuming the budget is just for 4 boxes then I think you can do well with this. We tried K10's and they need to always run with subs unless a very small gig....but I think they are better that the K12's with subs for vox. I think you'd also get the whole band through that rig well enough... We use KW12's as they are better for Keys on their own..and that was the only reason we went for the 12's as we run the P.A with keys and gtr plus 4 vox through them at loud Pub gigs. We've added RCF 905 subs as we werent convinced the QSC subs were worth the price over what we go the RCF's for. I believe that lot came in at a lot less that £3500 new. The QSC tops work well at very good volumes..and it is only when we start to outplay the kit..and he is very loud or rather the snare is... that we carry the subs. I will not add RCF and other stuff to the review as we feel the QSC stuff is probably the best at that price point.and weight. Subs are subs in that they will all be heavy and the cabs need to be wooden..IMV...but you still need to by decent ones as the likes of Thumps are too flabby. You could probably go all QSC for your budget. I am not that knocked out with HK these days ..altho I think they do decent wooden box versions but I've come across a few horn failures in the later versions. Ditto JBL, but we might be talking a few years ago.. but not 1st gen kit. If active wasn't an option, then I'd go for Martin SH.... as this outclasses QSC, I think... but then you are in an other priceleague. SH is very attractive, tho. QSC for your needs is a pretty decent league to be in though for 200 ppl venues. The best P.A's I've heard from typical pub bands have been QSC.... but if your gigs are a more discerning and bigger, you'd be hiring in anyway. Don't know your Turbosounds, but you may be into their budget line pricepoint..?? Edited September 29, 2013 by JTUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I ould say..with that budget, you need to spend a day A/B'ing them all in a dedicated store. Andertons in Guildford had a very good stock on the cabs we wanted to hear...and you should find the same..with all the relevant models to be demo'd.. You might have to travel, but there is no way round this dirty work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
police squad Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm running QSC K12s and Ksubs. Great sound and nice and compact. Very occasionally I run without the subs and the 12s sound full and rich. I think I paid £3150 for the lot, from pro audio systems. The subs weight about 30kg each but have excellent castors and the handles are so well positioned that they do not present any problems. We put everything through it, drums, bass, guitars and guitar synth. I've even used it outside with an extra Ksub (3 of them) and it was awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stjohn Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Hk audio. Used an alias as a hire rig for years. Bloody good sound and idiot proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Went to see a very good local band last night and they were using a 4 box system of RCF gear, sounded fine to me, one system that didn't impress was my little brothers Opera set up, considering the price I wasn't impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike257 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I've had good results from HK Actor, a used six box system might come in your price range and you'd be able to scale it down to four or two boxes as required for smaller rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisbrain Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Spend £600 on PA, and the rest on guitars, drugs 'n hookers! http://www.astounded.com/qtx-2100w-10-channel-active-live-band-pa-system-with-usb-mixer.html BB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpalt Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 We use FBT Promaxx 12s, and cant find enough good things to say about them. They are very light, sound out of this world, are reliable, bi-amped with enormous power and simple to set up. We also have a pair of Mackie 18" subs, but the FBTs work superbly without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkgod Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) [quote name='mike257' timestamp='1380454885' post='2225417'] I've had good results from HK Actor, a used six box system might come in your price range and you'd be able to scale it down to four or two boxes as required for smaller rooms. [/quote] +1 I do pa hire, and have not had problems at all with the Hk Actor,hifi clear and punchy and looks great Edited October 6, 2013 by funkgod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblin Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I use two completely different PA rigs and they're both superb, and compact. The first is an EV rig. Pair of EV SX100+, Bell and Ecler power amps and a Peavey XR800F desk which mixes and also acts as monitor power amp. No problems there, fits into the back of my Fabia with my full bass rig too! For bigger gigs, there's two VX15 subs too which are excellent! The other (which I prefer to be honest) is my function band's Yamaha system. Active so more portable, and very loud. Got a pair of DXR12 speakers which are 1100watt a side class D, and the DXS15 powered sub, then a Mackie desk. Essentially 4 boxes, and it goes between a Fiesta and a Fabia plus a 5 piece band and our gear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassintheface Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 We've recently bought a JBL PRX Active system - 2 x 615M mid hi's and 2 x 618 XLF subs. Its awesome but around £4k. Some friends have bought the slightly cheaper HK Premium Pro 1 tops and 18 subs. That is closer to your budget I think and having heard it recently, I was very impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddys nose Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 HK are lovely I had a early Actor and it was superb, Thomann had a special on the HK Elias not so long back for £1900! I also owned some K12's and they sounded great and very light weight. I now own a full Line 6 Dreamstage system and am very very happy with it, Its cut setup time in half and the amount of positive compliments I get on the quality of sound is unbelievable and no feedback ever with the built in feedback destroyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Thumbs up for HK Audio. Hired a kit for an airline pilot's bash at a swishy hotel, and they were awesome. We used our own amps and desk Edited October 2, 2013 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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