MORE new Fenders - Vintage Hot Rod P & J

[wateroftyne]

[url="http://www.fender.com/en-GB/series/vintage-hot-rod/"]More info here...[/url]

[b][size=5]Vintage Hot Rod 60s Precision Bass:[/size][/b]





[b][size=5]Vintage Hot Rod 70s Jazz bass:[/size][/b]






Discuss...

[CamdenRob]

Can't get on with the look of PJs...

[Happy Jack]

Fender are way behind the curve ...

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[discreet]

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1381310177' post='2237209']
Can't get on with the look of PJs...
[/quote]

Me neither. The J pickup looks a bit lonely. And can be a bit noisy, too.

[Si600]

Now if the P was a 5er...

[Dingus]

Why is it that Fender consistantly fail to come up with an appealing mass-market PJ bass? It would seem like the most obvious thing in the World to make a priority , but decades go by and still it eludes them . As we have discussed on these pages before , a twin Precision configuration would potentially be a winner , too.

That Jazz Bass with a Precision pickup looks very wrong, too. Not quite as wrong as a Precision with two Jazz Bass pickups , but still wrong .

[neepheid]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[discreet]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381312890' post='2237267']
...a twin Precision configuration would potentially be a winner, too.
[/quote]

You could always try a Blacktop Jazz... and I quite like the idea of a J with a P pickup. Neck still too narrow, though!



Has anyone got a J body with a P neck..? I could go with that.

Edited October 9, 2013 by discreet

[iamtheelvy]

A fender PJ!! Yes!

Wait... no sunburst? No maple fretboards?

[TPJ]

The prices are a bit steep too for what they are. I was looking for a PJ recently and found Jap imports for something like 1/3-1/2 the price of these.

I'm having a custom ACG PJ made for less than this as well.

[Dingus]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381313079' post='2237273']
You could always try a Blacktop Jazz... and I quite like the idea of a J with a P pickup. Neck still too narrow, though!



Has anyone got a J body with a P neck..? I could go with that.
[/quote]

But why put Precision pickups on a Jazz body? Put the on a Precision body and it would look great . Also , without wishing to sound uneccesarilly elitist , what I want ( and would buy) from Fender is quality ( well , quality by Fender standards , if you know what I mean) American-made basses . They seem to make so many basses nowadays that look like , and indeed essentially are, bodged together configurations and designs made of available parts from existing Mexican-made basses. Some of the more original designs , like the Carbonita Precision and the new Starcaster Bass , look like they could be a lot of fun , but most of them look extremely unappealing to me , to be honest.

Edited October 9, 2013 by Dingus

[paul h]

I do love me a PJ

[discreet]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381314824' post='2237321']
But why put Precision pickups on a Jazz body?
[/quote]

I suppose it's because the Jazz already has the two-pickup knobs and control plate. A Precision version would need to be adapted from the single vol and tone configuration. A cost consideration, basically. Fender bodging up basses from the old parts bin again, as you say.

But thinking about it, the routing is different for the two P pickups anway, so... I don't know is the short answer.

Edited October 9, 2013 by discreet

[discreet]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381314824' post='2237321']
But why put Precision pickups on a Jazz body? Put them on a Precision body and it would look great...
[/quote]

Looks like they already did - in 1983.

[url="http://gitarion.pl/galeria/basowe/fender_precision_elite_II/fender_precision_elite_II.html"]http://gitarion.pl/galeria/basowe/fender_precision_elite_II/fender_precision_elite_II.html[/url]

[EliasMooseblaster]

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1381310964' post='2237230']
Fender are way behind the curve ...

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[/quote]

Now who is this semi-hollow beauty made by? I do like the look of that.

[Dingus]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381315016' post='2237324']
I suppose it's because the Jazz already has the two-pickup knobs and control plate. A Precision version would need to be adapted from the single vol and tone configuration. A cost consideration, basically. Fender bodging up basses from the old parts bin again, as you say.

But thinking about it, the routing is different for the two P pickups anway, so... I don't know is the short answer.
[/quote]

I think the reasoning is that the Jazz is enduringly popular , so why not offer it with a different twist i.e as a PJ ,but the reality is that what you end up is a ruined Jazz Bass that doesn't satisfy as a Precision either . The truth is that the best solution is to have two basses , a Precision and a Jazz . Whether the Precision should be a PJ is a moot point , for the much-discussed reasons to do with balancing the output of the pickups and the problems caused by phase cancellation , but then again , a Fender-style PJ can still be a satisfying and very useful bass , so I'm not neccesarilly dismissing them .

[discreet]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1381315664' post='2237352']
I think the reasoning is that the Jazz is enduringly popular, so why not offer it with a different twist i.e as a PJ ,but the reality is that what you end up is a ruined Jazz Bass that doesn't satisfy as a Precision either.
[/quote]

Well I have a problem with Jazzes anyway... largely because they're not Precisions, but I take your point.

[TPJ]

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1381315526' post='2237342']
Now who is this semi-hollow beauty made by? I do like the look of that.
[/quote]

Status

[Dingus]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381315284' post='2237334']
Looks like they already did - in 1983.

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[/quote]

I was thinking about these as I typed my post by virtue of the fact that one of my mates had one back in those days . They were excellent basses , although the micro tuning bridge wasn't a good idea in retrospect . I seem to remember the neck was very Jazz Bass- like. A passive version would be a great addition to the current Fender line .

Edited October 9, 2013 by Dingus

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='TPJ' timestamp='1381315865' post='2237356']
Status
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[url="http://www.status-graphite.com/status/frames/index_home.html"]http://www.status-graphite.com/status/frames/index_home.html[/url]

And a thing of beauty it is too. I love my vintage Fenders, but the graphite neck on this Status gives the classic P-bass sound some real punch.

[EliasMooseblaster]

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1381316027' post='2237367']
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And a thing of beauty it is too. I love my vintage Fenders, but the graphite neck on this Status gives the classic P-bass sound some real punch.
[/quote]

Yeah, I've heard good things about them - does the cavity make much difference to the sound, or just look awesome?

Edited October 9, 2013 by EliasMooseblaster

[Happy Jack]

Mainly the look, I'd say, which is really very cool ...

[The Dark Lord]

I think the bridges are non-string thru ..... which = disqualification in my book.

[Musicman20]

I received an email on this today. Nice idea. Are the P/J Jazz basses very similar to the recent MIJ models?

Not keen on the P colours...wish they would do a 3 tone sunburst.

I often think 'why not get a Sandberg' when I see these new Fender's, but I guess the Sandbergs are totally different.

Edited October 9, 2013 by Musicman20

[Green Alsatian]

£1623 (P) and £1678 (J) at Andertons:

[url="http://www.andertons.co.uk/electric-basses/pid30962/cid682/fender-vintage-hot-rod-60s-precision-bass-rosewood-fingerboard.asp"]http://www.andertons.co.uk/electric-basses/pid30962/cid682/fender-vintage-hot-rod-60s-precision-bass-rosewood-fingerboard.asp[/url]

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