StageAhead Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 At first it was just a requested bassline, but finally I came up with a short lesson about a very famous and commonly used bass pattern. Take A Look: [url="http://four-strings-basslessons.blogspot.de/2013/10/weekly-basslines-122-burning-love-elvis.html"]http://four-strings-...love-elvis.html[/url] Do you know more songs utilizing this bass pattern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 A Kind Of Magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageAhead Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Sure, "A Kind of Magic" is certainly a 1-5-6-Pattern. It's quiet obvious, you can tell by just hearing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Gloria Gaynor - I Never Can Say Goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageAhead Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 YESSS!! I think a lot of Discosongs from Seventies might have used this pattern!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFry Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Black Is Black Time Is Tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Great article - I'm thinking a lot of country stuff like Hank WIlliams and Johnny Cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexbasscat Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 From the 70's hit parade - Son of my Father Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 [quote name='essexbasscat' timestamp='1381349913' post='2238079'] From the 70's hit parade - Son of my Father [/quote] Cat Stevens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Love Really Hurts Without You- Billy Ocean Sugar Pie Honeybunch- Four Tops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ah you already have Sugarpie.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1381314338' post='2237309'] Gloria Gaynor - I Never Can Say Goodbye [/quote] Isn't it also on Gaynor's version of 'Substitute', from about 3:35 on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSlztAQcU1o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageAhead Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Great! Quiet a few additions to my list. Thanks to all contributors. A few comments: [b]Black is Black (Los Bravos) [/b]- Here the 1-5-6-Pattern is combined with another frequent pattern that I would call 1-5-b7-Pattern. Usually the 1-5-6-Pattern is mainly used for major chords. The correspondent pattern for minor chords would be the 1-5-b7-Pattern. [b]Time Is Tight (Booker T. & The MG's)[/b] - Excactly. Duck Dunn it again ;-) [b]Son Of My Father (Chicory Tip)[/b] - This is a pattern utilizing the sixth and fifth, but it's different because here you play those chord tones above the root note, while the pattern that I described has them below the root. [b]Love Really Hurts without you (Billy Ocean)[/b] - Yes, again the 1-5-6-Pattern and it's also interesting how the rhythmic patterns do resemble amongst the different songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageAhead Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1381378715' post='2238222'] Isn't it also on Gaynor's version of 'Substitute', from about 3:35 on this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSlztAQcU1o[/media] [/quote] Yes! It's also in the verses, just added by a low octave of the root at the end. As I said before I think if you take a closer look to seventies disco music you'll probably find hundreds of examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) What are you doing awake at this ungodly hour? I"ve had to fix some software when other people wouldn't have been using it! Edit: You're in Germany - not quite so early there. The first thing I do when I learn a riff is to adapt it to something slightly different. The obvious one here for me is: 1---6-5-6-5-6-5-1---6-5-6-5-6-5 (these are degrees of the scale, not fret numbers, if that's not clear from context, the 6s and 5s are lower than the root. The root is a crotchet, the 6s and 5s are quavers). Here's a challenge: Has that exact riff above been used in songs? It certainly sounds familiar if I play it. (Note: I must admit I haven't played all of your example transcriptions, but went straight for the general case - is it in your transcriptions? - Edit. I read them, and didn't see it there) Edited October 10, 2013 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageAhead Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Well I'm indeed an early bird, but we're also an hour up front in Germany. The pattern you described is very similar to the patterns I mentoined, but not exactly the same as you repeat the 6-5 part more often. But it's only a little variation and I'm sure there's also a song using right this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Edit: I had a massive transcription fail when describing that pattern. What I was actually playing is: 1---6-5-6-1-6-5-1---6-5-6-1-6-5- With 1--- being a crotchet, and 1- being a quaver (like everything else). This is sure to have been used before, the other one sounds awful. You mention the 1-5-b7 pattern. Putting the two together gets the 'cowboy' bass line 1-5-6-5-1-5-6-5-1-5-6-5-b7-5-6-5 Edit: The main riff for De La Soul's "Say No Go" sounds similar-ish, but not the same. If I try to play it: 1-5h6-5-6-5-6-8 (with 8 being the octave and the 5 and six being above the root 1), then it sounds too 'major key'). But, if I play it as if it's from a minor pentatonic 1-4h5-4-5-4-5-4-5-8- that sounds even more wrong. I'm often able to work out basslines by ear, but am having trouble with this one. I thought it was a 1-5-6, but when I actually listen, it might not be. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08X5CVfL0bk[/media] Edit: For pure 1-5-6, or at least 1-6-5, Rita Coolidge "(Your love has lifted me) HIgher and Higher" Edited October 10, 2013 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageAhead Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Rita Coolidge's version of "Higher and Higher" is another good example for the 1-5-6-Pattern. The De La Soul song is something totally different. It seems to be: 1-5-11-b7-8-5-11-b7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shybaldbuddhist Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 This pattern pops up in Psycho Killer by Talking Heads and California Girls by The Beach Boys. It's also in a lot of early Rolling Stones stuff such as All Over Now. It's such a great pattern! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I've got something stuck in my head which appears to be 'the pattern'. It's an intro from a song from the first Blues Brothers movie, but I can't remember which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1381819251' post='2244042'] I've got something stuck in my head which appears to be 'the pattern'. It's an intro from a song from the first Blues Brothers movie, but I can't remember which one. [/quote] I cant turn you loose? Edited October 15, 2013 by Hobbayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1381826738' post='2244123'] I cant turn you loose? [/quote] Yes, that's it. Though, in my head it sounded slower, and more like 1-5-6 as in the other songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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