waynepunkdude Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 [quote name='SteveK' post='224269' date='Jun 22 2008, 04:55 PM']Getting a good take is more than getting to the end of a song without any mistakes - It's got to have attitude - it has to sound fresh. 20 attempts to get it nailed really is too long (in any case I'm sure that would be in contravention of your basic human rights ) If your drummer hasn't got it in 4 or 5 takes then you gotta take a break or move on to something else. If - when you come back to it - he still can't get it, then you basically have 3 choices: Simplify the part. Drop the song. Use another drummer Steve[/quote] I've taken a huge amount of takes in the past thats why we take laptops and lots of TV shows on AVI to the studio when we go, sometimes you don't want them to nail it because Family Guy is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alz Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 [quote name='SteveK' post='224269' date='Jun 22 2008, 04:55 PM']Getting a good take is more than getting to the end of a song without any mistakes - It's got to have attitude - it has to sound fresh. 20 attempts to get it nailed really is too long (in any case I'm sure that would be in contravention of your basic human rights ) If your drummer hasn't got it in 4 or 5 takes then you gotta take a break or move on to something else. If - when you come back to it - he still can't get it, then you basically have 3 choices: Simplify the part. Drop the song. Use another drummer Steve[/quote] Let the drummer record his part first then record your part after. Also, I personally have a problem playing a bassline note for note just like the record. Doesn't actually amount to anything. If I was in a situation where I had to endlessly redo a track, I would look at ways of making it mine, developing my own voice, approach it as if I was the original bassist and pushing the envelope. If band members don't appreciate it, find a band that does. The best musicians in the best bands are always at it....i.e. pushing the envelope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alz Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 [quote name='Chezz55' post='223407' date='Jun 21 2008, 07:16 AM']NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! ! ! ! ! ! Listen to Dave Brubeck's awesome 'Unsquare Dance' which is in 7/4, a glorious time signature and a simple bass line but stay focussed or you lose it. Incidentally there's a video on YouTube of a Tap Dancing sequence to 'Unsquare Dance' - I think it's amazing. The most tedious bass line i've found/played is Fleetwood Mac's 'Albatross' (AKA Albert's Truss, Alba-dross etc) - 3 minutes or so of E - F# - E. Whenever I play or hear it I lose the will to lose the will to live. Chris.[/quote] Don't forget the main riff in 'Money'!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galilee Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 I think that if I was 'pushing the envelope' and 'making it mine' on a Rammstein track, I'd just look like an idiot who was completely missing the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 [quote name='Blink' post='223443' date='Jun 21 2008, 09:53 AM']If your drummer needs 20 takes to get a basic track down. Get a new drummer!!!!!! Problem sorted. Nick[/quote] My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I don't mind simple repetitive, or even moderately complex repetitive. What I hate is songs like Because the Night, which just seems to be a random succession of chords. No way I can remember that song, I always have to play with a crib sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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