Prime_BASS Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 What is out there? I didn't realise until recently my very own BB preamps are essentially TS clones, and I have a TubeScreamer. It also turns out that there are quiet a lot of pedals that are derivatives of the TubeScreamer. I'd like to know what else is out there? And what's any good? I'll add that I've used the BB preamps on both guitar and bass and compared to the original TS I have they deal all over it. I think the TS sounds pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Full tone bass drive- widely rated Sparkle drive Bad monkey- sounds good, but most prefer the modded version Hardwire tube od- lovely pedal, criminally underrated Edited October 20, 2013 by dudewheresmybass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 And of course Tom COG's Darklighter Overdrive! Also the Rodenberg dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I have a keeley modded ts-9 that is really nice but am not using at the moment...It'll probably be appearing on here shortly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1382247432' post='2249630'] I'd like to know what else is out there? And what's any good? [/quote] You mean in terms of TS derivatives or other overdrive pedals? If it's other pedals, I made a BYOC clone of the Marshall Bluesbreaker which I love for milder OD. Very moddable too. Personally I'm not a fan of TS pedals, they never seem very flexible to me and I find the midrange boost very grating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 [quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1382278406' post='2249963'] You mean in terms of TS derivatives or other overdrive pedals? If it's other pedals, I made a BYOC clone of the Marshall Bluesbreaker which I love for milder OD. Very moddable too. Personally I'm not a fan of TS pedals, they never seem very flexible to me and I find the midrange boost very grating. [/quote] As in what else is a TS derivative/clone, personally I hate the original TS9 it works fine on guitar to drive a massive great valve thing into pure dirty mess but on a clean to dirt stompbox style it sucks, even worse on bass and the bass version is even worse than that. But a lot of clones I've tried and imparticular my BBs they just seem to work as drive pedals, add a nice colour and can sound mild but crank well too. I'd like to try one of those rodenberg ones as the price is something to think twice at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazWills Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I like the bass-specific TS clones too, use a BB preamp and still have an early, pre-MOSFET bassdrive kicking around. I'm sure that loads of other o/d pedals are based heavily on this circuit - I'd heard the new MXR bass o/d was, which is why I'm keen to try it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's the basis for SO many drive pedals. I would suggest that most pedal companies will have a fuzz based off a Muff or possibly a Fuzzface, and a drive based off a Tubscreamer or increasingly the OCD Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 when someone looked over the schematic of my pearce BC1 a while ago, they mentioned it was based on a TS style overdrive. so based on that i guess the Billy Sheehan OD is as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Fulltone Full Drive maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 [quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1382387131' post='2251652'] Fulltone Full Drive maybe? [/quote] You know the Fulltone Bass Drive is actually just a Full Drive, tweaked to handle bass frequencies? The earliest BDs even came in a FD case, with "bass" crudely stuck over the "full"!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy64 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Way Huge green Rhino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I had a BM for a while, but it's not nice (and tonesucks terribly, though loss of high frequencies may not be a problem with bass). Just got an Eno ES-9 (arrived yesterday direct from China) which is a TS9 clone, and really like what I've heard so far. Not sure how good it would be with bass, but it's good for guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 isnt the Markbass mini distortion thing a tubescreamer as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheelvy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 No love for the Bass Tubescreamer? :-) I know, I know... there isn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 [quote name='Ant' timestamp='1382537737' post='2253357'] isnt the Markbass mini distortion thing a tubescreamer as well? [/quote] This is unconfirmed, I made the suggestion after comparing the pedal to an Xotic BB Pre, but not sure of the specifics. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 [quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1382393094' post='2251747'] You know the Fulltone Bass Drive is actually just a Full Drive, tweaked to handle bass frequencies? The earliest BDs even came in a FD case, with "bass" crudely stuck over the "full"!... [/quote] I didn't, never tried one but I've heard good things. They seem to hold their relatively high price though so I'm put off giving one a whirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='Ant' timestamp='1382537737' post='2253357'] isnt the Markbass mini distortion thing a tubescreamer as well? [/quote] I always thought so too as Si says, plus I thought it was a miniturised version of the bass tube marker. It's sounds nice and similar to the xotics BB but the tone controls are a bit weird and would have served me better if it had a bass and treble control. [quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1382557176' post='2253701'] I didn't, never tried one but I've heard good things. They seem to hold their relatively high price though so I'm put off giving one a whirl. [/quote] I had an early one and then later had a non mosfet one(mosfet version sounds very wooly) very huge sound though, the later variants sound to dissimilar to the original full drive to be counted as TS clones though. My main wonder is why clone it? But I guess that's why there are so many fender clones out there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1382557176' post='2253701'] I didn't, never tried one but I've heard good things. They seem to hold their relatively high price though so I'm put off giving one a whirl. [/quote] They do hold their value well. I had the MOSFET one which was nice, but sold it when Tom (COG) made me a far superior clone. I'd say (as would many others on here!) that the Xotic BB does what the Bass Drive can do and loads more, and can be had for a lot less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1382601243' post='2254078'] They do hold their value well. I had the MOSFET one which was nice, but sold it when Tom (COG) made me a far superior clone. I'd say (as would many others on here!) that the Xotic BB does what the Bass Drive can do and loads more, and can be had for a lot less! [/quote] For me an actual EQ serves a better purpose than a single LPF based tone control. That's probably why I like the BB pre so much, so much so I have two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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