xilddx Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) I do I love a damn good picardy third. I knew I loved em when I first heard the end of the piece in the video and later found out what it was called. I can hear them, they are like a bright light being turned on in the music, and that's when I go "Wot a splendidly superb tierce picarde!". I don't give a badger's nadgers how pretentious that exclamation sounds [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPB2qbxuiLM[/media] Got any good examples to share? Edited October 24, 2013 by xilddx Quote
JapanAxe Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 No but I'm always on the listen-out for a Phrygian cadence. Example: Smoke on the Water, Ab to Gm. Quote
xilddx Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1382647445' post='2255094'] Vai looks about 12 there! [/quote] Yeah I know I got so much inspiration from that whole end guitar duel thing back in 1983 or whatever it was. That dancey one was wicked, Steve Vai is just so lyrical in that, his soloing is gorgeous! I got a visceral desire to play and practice from watching it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD4o3VDnftI[/media] Edited October 24, 2013 by xilddx Quote
Lord Sausage Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Aye, been listening to a lot of Stevie recently. He has probably been my biggest influence as a musician in terms he really made me want to understand music scales, chords and harmony. You know all them things it's bad to learn. The first proper muso i got into. Found this the other day. You can really here all the nuances of his playing and musicality. It's just incredible. http://youtu.be/bGR1-26IMwA Quote
xilddx Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1382652577' post='2255189'] Aye, been listening to a lot of Stevie recently. He has probably been my biggest influence as a musician in terms he really made me want to understand music scales, chords and harmony. You know all them things it's bad to learn. The first proper muso i got into. Found this the other day. You can really here all the nuances of his playing and musicality. It's just incredible. [media]http://youtu.be/bGR1-26IMwA[/media] [/quote] Thank you SO much for that mate! Stunning! Quote
Billy Apple Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1382647739' post='2255098'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD4o3VDnftI[/media] [/quote] Meh.. This just seems like w@nky nonsense from the '80's. Bad hair, bad clothes and ugly(well not the Tele) guitars. Lots of notes, but not much soul. I'd choose Billy Duffy over this any day. Quote
dudewheresmybass Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Don't forget the context- in this, vai is the devils representative in a guitar battle for the mans soul. Completely believable, and worthy of serious musical critique Quote
Lord Sausage Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1382653043' post='2255198'] Thank you SO much for that mate! Stunning! [/quote] No problem! [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1382654854' post='2255226'] Meh.. This just seems like w@nky nonsense from the '80's. Bad hair, bad clothes and ugly(well not the Tele) guitars. Lots of notes, but not much soul. I'd choose Billy Duffy over this any day. [/quote] Well listen to the For Love of God video i posted! Quote
Happy Jack Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Plus I've never seen Ry Cooder's name spelled with an extra 'e' before ... Life was better before the Guitar Hero emerged. Page & Clapton have a lot to answer for. Quote
Billy Apple Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 [quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1382686208' post='2255326'] Well listen to the For Love of God video i posted! [/quote] I did!.... [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1382654854' post='2255226'] Meh.. This just seems like w@nky nonsense from the '80's...... Lots of notes, but not much soul. I'd choose Billy Duffy over this any day. [/quote] Quote
Lord Sausage Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1382686831' post='2255337'] I did!.... [/quote] well get ya facts right cos it's from the 90's ha ha Quote
Billy Apple Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 [quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1382686994' post='2255344'] well get ya facts right cos it's from the 90's ha ha [/quote] Oh, well, Don't I look uncool on the internet meh. Quote
Lord Sausage Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1382687620' post='2255354'] Oh, well, Don't I look uncool on the internet meh. [/quote]i was only havin a laugh. I wasn't being arsey hence the haha. Oh, well, Don't I look uncool on the internet . meh Quote
CamdenRob Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I know a fair bit of theory, I use it in everything I play but, I have absolutely no idea what a tierce picarde is... Quote
Lord Sausage Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1382688608' post='2255369'] I know a fair bit of theory, I use it in everything I play but, I have absolutely no idea what a tierce picarde is... [/quote] tierce de picardie is simply resolving a piece in a minor key on a major chord. i.e if it's in Cminor you resolve it on C maj. It doesn't just have to be the end of the piece it can be any cadence within the piece. Quote
steve-bbb Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1382688608' post='2255369'] I know a fair bit of theory, I use it in everything I play but, I have absolutely no idea what a tierce picarde is... [/quote] just think of it as a happy third - in a nutshell a piece in a minor key resolving on the final cadence to the major [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picardy_third"]https://en.wikipedia...i/Picardy_third[/url] edit - apologies lord sausage you beat me by a few seconds there Edited October 25, 2013 by steve-bbb Quote
Hobbayne Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Apart from And I Love Her, The Beatles used it on I'll Be Back. (Not Arnie, but found on the Hard Nights Night album Edit - Hard Days Night! Just goes to show no one reads my threads Edited October 25, 2013 by Hobbayne Quote
CamdenRob Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 [quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1382688741' post='2255370'] tierce de picardie is simply resolving a piece in a minor key on a major chord. i.e if it's in Cminor you resolve it on C maj. It doesn't just have to be the end of the piece it can be any cadence within the piece. [/quote] [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1382689202' post='2255376'] just think of it as a happy third - in a nutshell a piece in a minor key resolving on the final cadence to the major [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picardy_third"]https://en.wikipedia...i/Picardy_third[/url] edit - apologies lord sausage you beat me by a few seconds there [/quote] Thanks gents... I am suitably enlightened.... Quote
DaveFry Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Tierce picardie at 0:44 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCAeDIF2svc[/media] " Europa " is just a cycle round the circle of fifths in a minor key ( same as Autumn Leaves or Still Got The Blues For You ) , but starting on the iv chord . ie iv, VII, III, VI, iidim , V , i but the second time round it changes the i ( minor ) to I (major ) . Quote
bassmachine2112 Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Sounds like a lot of cul de canard to me Quote
Happy Jack Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Well Nige reckons it's [i]les coulis du chien[/i] ... Quote
JapanAxe Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Nobody went for my Phrygian cadence thread hijack then. [i]Meh[/i], I say, and [i]meh[/i] again. Quote
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