cd_david Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Fender P www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/fender-p-bass/1037238698 A VERY Squier looking Custom Shop? Edited October 30, 2013 by cd_david Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I wouldn't buy a second hand Fender unless it came from someone very reliable. I tried to use this example to research on how to tell a genuine fender from a fake (e.g. relabelled Squier). Unlike, e.g., identifying fake Gibson LPs, there is much less information available. And the actual Fender forum seems to be fill of people also saying that they wouldn't buy (e.g.) a Fender Custom shop except from a reliable source. One thread I saw had a supposed genuine Fender with the neck removed. In the pocket the body said 'Allparts', and the neck said 'Mighty Mite'. I note that the gumtree fender seems to have the 'fat' Squier headstock. And no stamped serial number that I can see, just a number as part of the decal. Are these the differences you see, or is there more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd_david Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 The headstock is the wrong shape as you say, the decal looks like the lacquer underneath is a different colour, as if it had been sanded? The machine heads are the Chinese ones used by Squier and other budget brands, the pick guard is the wrong shape around the jack socket and doesn't run parallel to the bottom of the body which might not always be the case but just looks wrong and sets off alarm bells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 S serial number on headstock. Er was custom shop around then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1383208889' post='2261460'] [/quote] This is pretty much what she is attempting by adding a printed 'insurance quote' rather than a CS Certificate of Authenticity! To be honest, I'm surprised it's lasted this long without it being removed. A very obvious fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1383208889' post='2261460'] [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 He's got a photo of the insurance valuation letter (wot his pal Nobby knocked up on his PC), so that's alright then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 [quote name='gjones' timestamp='1383226745' post='2261799'] He's got a photo of the insurance valuation letter (wot his pal Nobby knocked up on his PC), so that's alright then. [/quote] He used word art, so it must be legit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 anyone fancy sending them an email asking where all the custom shop goodies are? like the hardcase and the certificate etc? M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 It costs £50 to get a written valuation from Harris Hire. http://www.harris-hire.co.uk/valuations.php The letter mentions a Fender P-Bass, but of course it doesn't mean that Harris Hire has actually seen the bass. They also do telephone valuations, where I presume they'd accept any descriptions (such as that's a real Custom Shop bass) at face value. Anyone want to email [email protected] and ask what they think? They are 'always happy to discuss any aspect of [their] business'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) it seems that this is where the valuation came from [url="http://www.harris-hire.co.uk/valuations.php"]http://www.harris-hi.../valuations.php[/url] would have expected that the valuation cert would give a few more details than it does, like the colour maybe, and the serial number, but the seller seems to have covered over most of the text. M Edit - beaten to it! Edited October 31, 2013 by Matt P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 PS: I put the serial number into [url=http://www.guitardaterproject.org/fender.aspx]The Guitar Dater Project[/url] and it said that the number was not recognised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushbo Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Gone now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd_david Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) I messaged the seller saying I was interested in the bass but wondered about the machine heads, the 70s serial number and the lack of case and candy, they replied saying they bought it off an emigrating friend and they had the same concerns so had the independent appraisal to put their mind at rest. So it's all fine Edited November 1, 2013 by cd_david Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1383208889' post='2261460'] [/quote] Nice phone. I'll take two! PMSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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