chris_b Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='NJE' timestamp='1383500255' post='2265116'] ....I have been tempted by a Bergantino 2x12 cab.... [/quote] The Berg CN212 weighs 46lbs. That's pretty close to 1 DB112. The CN212 is a 2 handed lift, and is easy to move around, but the DB pulls your arm out of it's socket. I think they both sound fantastic, but the DB's weight and carry is a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned. If you're in this ballpark I'd also suggest looking at a used Barefaced 212 (40lbs) or the new Super Compact (23lbs) and Big Baby 2 (26lbs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbass Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I have a Vanderkley 112 up for sale. Mark at Bass Direct has pointed a lot of happy people in this direction. If you're near Cambridge you're welcome to try it out. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 This is a big hint. Check GAK's website for the Genz NX2 212T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 I think I am going to have to bite the bullet and go to Bass Gear or Bass Direct and actually look, lift and play some of these cabs to see what will be manageable. My only issue is wasting shop staff time, I don't want to drive all the way there play for a couple of hours and leave with nothing, I always feel like I am wasting their time if there is nothing I really like. Oh well might just have to get over that and go to Bass Gear, they have a lovely selection of Bergantino and Aguilar as a first port of call. Vanderkley are very much on my radar, they look great and get good reviews. Not too sure about Barefaced, I am sure they are superb and I don't want to offend anyone but I just don't like how they look and if I am going to spend a huge chunk of cash I want to like what I am buying (vain I know). After looking around and reading everyones comments, on reflection it is amazing that there are so many good quality products we can choose from, when I started it seemed there were only a handful but I feel very well catered for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1383558892' post='2265724'] This is a big hint. Check GAK's website for the Genz NX2 212T. [/quote] Christ, that's cheap...! Also, check out the TKS S212. I'm actually thinking of getting one myself. Trying one first might be tricky / impossible, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='NJE' timestamp='1383559573' post='2265730'] ....it is amazing that there are so many good quality products we can choose from.... [/quote] [i]It's a great time to be a bass player.[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1383560284' post='2265741'] Christ, that's cheap...! Also, check out the TKS S212. I'm actually thinking of getting one myself. Trying one first might be tricky / impossible, though. [/quote] My thoughts as well, incredibly cheap. I have watched your TKS thread with great interest, they look great and good prices as well, as you said its the gamble not being able to play one. They should make you a endorsee/rep in the UK with a decent selection of the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyf Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1383528273' post='2265583'] The Berg CN212 weighs 46lbs. That's pretty close to 1 DB112. The CN212 is a 2 handed lift, and is easy to move around, but the DB pulls your arm out of it's socket. I think they both sound fantastic, but the DB's weight and carry is a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned. If you're in this ballpark I'd also suggest looking at a used Barefaced 212 (40lbs) or the new Super Compact (23lbs) and Big Baby 2 (26lbs). [/quote] I used EBS cabs for years (Proline 410's) but finally invested in a Berg CN212 when they first came out after trying one at Bass Direct. I was unconvinced that ANYTHING lightweight would come near the performance and sound of the Proline. I so loved that cab that anything replacing it was almost an emotional rather than technical decision to move to something else. The Berg though has been just amazing. Hits the spots on the output, tone and weight. As others have pointed out, because it's vertical construction makes it really easy to move about and there's so little weight in it[s], despite it using ceramic drivers[/s] (*neo drivers - corrected by chris_b ) You're welcome to come fly up the M5 and M42 and try mine out. Cheers T Edited November 4, 2013 by tonyf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hi tony.... the CN's use Neo drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyf Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1383561166' post='2265754'] Hi tony.... the CN's use Neo drivers. [/quote] Quite right. Sorry Chris, thanks for the correction. Bit of brain fade there. Dunno why I said that. <HIDES UNDER DESK AND DRIBBLES> Edited November 4, 2013 by tonyf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1383558892' post='2265724'] This is a big hint. Check GAK's website for the Genz NX2 212T. [/quote] Wow! I'm not actually looking for another cab, but that is mighty tempting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 From the phone for delivery thing doesn't sound like it is in stock at that price though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The GB NX2 212T is normally £740 ish. I'm also tempted to get an Uber 15 stack. I don't need it. Must stop. The TKS cabs are great as well. VERY well made, light, great tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1383562319' post='2265772'] From the phone for delivery thing doesn't sound like it is in stock at that price though. [/quote] I've checked that. They are arriving soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Because Fender have shutdown Genz Benz all stock is being sold off cheaply. When they're gone they're gone!! Genz users usually rate their gear very highly. If Genz have the tone you want then these will be the best deals out there. Edited November 4, 2013 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1383558892' post='2265724'] This is a big hint. Check GAK's website for the Genz NX2 212T. [/quote] do they actually have any stock of these,when i phoned they didn't & couldn't give me a delivery time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 I dont know why I hadn't thought about them but has anyone got any experience of the EBS Neo 112 cabs? Two of those might be a possibility and I do like EBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) [quote name='artisan' timestamp='1383568101' post='2265884'] do they actually have any stock of these,when i phoned they didn't & couldn't give me a delivery time. [/quote] No stock in their warehouse yet. They are on their way, apparently. If I don't get one I'll get an Uber 115 stack. Update - Found out they are available to order. As in you order, they will get one in and not charge until it is sent out. Edited November 4, 2013 by Musicman20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Bassdirect has 2 EBS 112 cabs. [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/EBS_Classic12_files/EBSFront.jpg"]http://www.bassdirec...es/EBSFront.jpg[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1383571538' post='2265943'] Bassdirect has 2 EBS 112 cabs. [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/EBS_Classic12_files/EBSFront.jpg"]http://www.bassdirec...es/EBSFront.jpg[/url] [/quote] I already have one of these and debated just getting another but I am very aware that they are 'budget' cabs in the world of 112's. Mine is used at practice a lot and its great but doesn't have vast amounts of low end and I cant imagine even adding another will give me good volume or that much more low end. I could be wrong, perhaps I need to try two....god I am going to have to drive to bass direct as well at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='NJE' timestamp='1383559573' post='2265730'] I think I am going to have to bite the bullet and go to Bass Gear or Bass Direct and actually look, lift and play some of these cabs to see what will be manageable. My only issue is wasting shop staff time, I don't want to drive all the way there play for a couple of hours and leave with nothing, I always feel like I am wasting their time if there is nothing I really like. Oh well might just have to get over that and go to Bass Gear, they have a lovely selection of Bergantino and Aguilar as a first port of call. Vanderkley are very much on my radar, they look great and get good reviews. Not too sure about Barefaced, I am sure they are superb and I don't want to offend anyone but I just don't like how they look and if I am going to spend a huge chunk of cash I want to like what I am buying (vain I know). After looking around and reading everyones comments, on reflection it is amazing that there are so many good quality products we can choose from, when I started it seemed there were only a handful but I feel very well catered for. [/quote] I think both places are pretty cool about people coming in to try stuff, that's what retailers are all about. I've been at BG when someone has come in for 4 hours+ to try different amps and cabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1383571018' post='2265931'] No stock in their warehouse yet. They are on their way, apparently. If I don't get one I'll get an Uber 115 stack. Update - Found out they are available to order. As in you order, they will get one in and not charge until it is sent out. [/quote] damn i could have saved myself a few quid there then i bought mine from Bass Direct for a fair bit more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 You wont beat genz gear for value right now, them combos everywhere are selling off are brilliant, its the only time id say buy new over a used amp from here for a similar budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 [quote name='NJE' timestamp='1383560820' post='2265748'] My thoughts as well, incredibly cheap. I have watched your TKS thread with great interest, they look great and good prices as well, as you said its the gamble not being able to play one. They should make you a endorsee/rep in the UK with a decent selection of the range. [/quote] Ha... Iit would be fun, but I don't have the space to keep 'em all. And all that choice would make my head explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Make sure you phone ahead just so these shops have what you want to try.. That is not a pop at the shops as you can't expect them to hold everything, everytime so I make it easier by calling ahead and timing your trip accordingly. Not point driving 2 hrs and not trying what you want. If you end up at Bass Gear, who will accomodate you very well, IME... buy a set of strings or something. So many goodies there, there must be something worth all the coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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