bassjamm Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 Good morning guys and gals, In a moment of madness, i spent a good hour or so trawling the internet last night looking at jazz basses, which has in turn struck me with GAS! I ask you, in your experiences, which Jazz basses have that honky ballsy sound? You know the one, it ooozes funk and punches like a little scraper...plenty of mid-range poke? Now i'm not meaning expensive here, as in Sei's and Lull's etc, i'm on about good old Fenders and the likes. For instance, does the Geddy have some bite, or the Marcus? How about some of the Jap models? Do your duty boys and girls, and provide us all with some tasty jazz funk honk 'Phwoahhhhhh'ness Agent Jam of much Jazz bass GAS, over and out. J Quote
Guest MoJo Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 Squier VM Jazz has THAT sound. Both pick-ups on full, then roll the neck pick-up back a touch et voila! Quote
lozbass Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 Picked up a mid 70s Jazz on the bay a good few years ago (early '76 pre logo change) and following a good set-up it honks like crazy - I really don't dig in at all, but it's not necessary on this! I have a Sei jazz too - the Barts were swapped-out for Wizards and it has tons of honk (moreso in active mode) but of a modern variety (if that makes any sense...more drive and hifi but lacking something of the classic thin honk of the Fender) Quote
steve-soar Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 I've got a Jap Jazz, 62 RI, and I swaped the stock pickups, which sounded great, for EMG JV's (exposed poles) and this was even better. I get that raspy type breakup in the low mids and the speakers get a good work out. I've just tried the standard EMG Jazz bass set, they have a curved magnet in them, to follow the radius of the neck, and these are even better. There is a perfect, even string response that you don't get with most Jazz pickups because the E and G are closer to the pickup, so A and D are always lacking and in my experience, all of the notes on the A and D get lost in a band mix. I've got the perfect Jazz, for me, as I can swap the EMG's over for a vintage vibe, or a barking, honking, dog-duck of a sound. I have played a couple of American Jazz basses and they were great but my Jap Jazz, which I got from Tokyo, is so light and acoustically resonant, that when I first unwrapped it, I knew it was a special bass. Bassjamm, I've PMed you. Quote
johnnylager Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 The Geddy Lee honks, especially with Wizard 84's in it. Try looking for a Jazz with the bridge pup closer to the bridge (early-mid 70's stylie IIRC...) Quote
Chris2112 Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='bassman2790' post='227876' date='Jun 27 2008, 11:00 AM']Squier VM Jazz has THAT sound. Both pick-ups on full, then roll the neck pick-up back a touch et voila![/quote] It does have a bit of a honk, I'll admit, but it's a touch brighter than the classic, growling, honky jazz sound imo. (Pardon the Spector). However, this baby really honks and growls! It's a lot heavier than my Squier too, but I kind of like the extra weight! Probably the best £90 I've ever spent. Quote
ahpook Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 what do you mean by 'honk' ? any sound clips ? Quote
spinynorman Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='Chris2112' post='227921' date='Jun 27 2008, 11:54 AM']It does have a bit of a honk, I'll admit, but it's a touch brighter than the classic, growling, honky jazz sound imo. (Pardon the Spector). However, this baby really honks and growls! It's a lot heavier than my Squier too, but I kind of like the extra weight! Probably the best £90 I've ever spent. [/quote] What's the white one? Oh, and no need to apologise for the the Spector. Not to me, anyway. Quote
niceguyhomer Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 Lakland Darryl Jones with Aero pups - classic 70s jazz sound IMO Quote
molan Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='niceguyhomer' post='228079' date='Jun 27 2008, 03:00 PM']Lakland Darryl Jones with Aero pups - classic 70s jazz sound IMO[/quote] That's good - I've just bought exactly one of these Quote
bassjamm Posted June 27, 2008 Author Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='ahpook' post='227922' date='Jun 27 2008, 11:54 AM']what do you mean by 'honk' ? any sound clips ?[/quote] We have an un-knower of the 'honk' amongst us...run for your lives!!! Sorry about that. Erm, no clips, there's plenty of songs out there that feature this 'honk'. It's that classic mid bite that some jazzes have, the one that makes you screw up your face, flare your nose, a dig every note you play...ooo yeah...funk, funk funk it up!!! Quote
ahpook Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='bassjamm' post='228251' date='Jun 27 2008, 07:41 PM']We have an un-knower of the 'honk' amongst us...run for your lives!!! Sorry about that. Erm, no clips, there's plenty of songs out there that feature this 'honk'. It's that classic mid bite that some jazzes have, the one that makes you screw up your face, flare your nose, a dig every note you play...ooo yeah...funk, funk funk it up!!![/quote] gimmie a clue on the songs...i'm not being obtuse. i just need to hear the quintessential honk Quote
bassjamm Posted June 27, 2008 Author Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='ahpook' post='228298' date='Jun 27 2008, 09:19 PM']gimmie a clue on the songs...i'm not being obtuse. i just need to hear the quintessential honk[/quote] Sorry mate, it was just me being an idiot...nothing meant by it Erm...that classic Jaco jazz honk, the sound that really pops out at you!!! For your pleasure...about 30 seconds in when she finger funks the funk out of it: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=uE3Y380Nv8Y&feature=related"]Me'shell Ndegeocello[/url] Not the best example, but getting there! Ahh...just found this: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZY033jfPoNk&feature=related"]Me'shell with rude tone[/url] That's what i'm getting at, that rude honky tone!!! Quote
RayFW Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) [quote name='bassjamm' post='228368' date='Jun 27 2008, 11:39 PM']Sorry mate, it was just me being an idiot...nothing meant by it Erm...that classic Jaco jazz honk, the sound that really pops out at you!!! For your pleasure...about 30 seconds in when she finger funks the funk out of it: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=uE3Y380Nv8Y&feature=related"]Me'shell Ndegeocello[/url] Not the best example, but getting there! Ahh...just found this: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZY033jfPoNk&feature=related"]Me'shell with rude tone[/url] That's what i'm getting at, that rude honky tone!!![/quote] That second clip has been a fav of mine for some time. I love her tone and the way she swings. [jazz club]Wonderful[/jazz club] Edited June 28, 2008 by rayfw Quote
Josh Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) [quote name='ahpook' post='228298' date='Jun 27 2008, 09:19 PM']gimmie a clue on the songs...i'm not being obtuse. i just need to hear the quintessential honk[/quote] A classic example of a jazz bass honk is easily anything and almost everything by Jaco: Or... Edited June 28, 2008 by Josh Quote
artisan Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) my MIM 60's jazz sounds fantastic,plays nice & look cool too.(nothing like the MIM std jazz btw) Edited June 28, 2008 by artisan Quote
bassjamm Posted June 28, 2008 Author Posted June 28, 2008 Beautiful stuff kind sir Josh!!! Out of interest...does anyone know if the 60's re-issue basses have that classic honk, or would i really need to look at the 70's? Thanks Jam Quote
Higgie Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 [quote name='niceguyhomer' post='228079' date='Jun 27 2008, 03:00 PM']Lakland Darryl Jones with Aero pups - classic 70s jazz sound IMO[/quote] I would have to agree I have that combo in both my DJ4 and DJ5, and a J-Retro in each too - Any Jazz sound I need is in both basses. They are simply wonderful. Quote
Josh Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 [quote name='bassjamm' post='228507' date='Jun 28 2008, 11:52 AM']Beautiful stuff kind sir Josh!!! Out of interest...does anyone know if the 60's re-issue basses have that classic honk, or would i really need to look at the 70's? Thanks Jam[/quote] Your Welcome Sir Jam! Well Jaco's jazz is a 60's, and I'd take a guess at saying that may be one of the reasons the 60's jazz was reissued, but hey someone will surely explain. Quote
bassjamm Posted June 28, 2008 Author Posted June 28, 2008 Ahh...so his was a 60's...and it sure did hink!!! Bow-chicka-wow-wow! Quote
OutToPlayJazz Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 Oh yes, definitely got that 70's jazz 'honk'! Got a Sadowsky preamp/di pedal on order as well - Will report on whether or not it makes a massive difference... Quote
steve-soar Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 What pre's do the Marcus Miller basses have in them? Quote
OutToPlayJazz Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 Not sure, to be honest Steve. Some people say it's a Fender, some an Aguilar. I'm betting Fender, as it's quite harsh if you whack both bass and treble full on. Used sensitively it's got a great sound, but I'm waiting to see how it sounds through the Sadowsky preamp/di pedal... Marcus Miller's own 70's Jazz has the Sadowsky circuit built into it. Quote
Chris2112 Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 Indeed it did, though these days Roger is somewhat embarassed by his work on Miller's bass. He says that he was young and not as skilled as he is now, which is why he had to fit the bass with such a large scratch plate, to cover his handiwork!! Quote
bassjamm Posted June 29, 2008 Author Posted June 29, 2008 Hmmm...interesting What does controls does the pre-amp offer then? Quote
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