Buying/trading a used amp: would you expect a power cable?

[Conan]

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1386282510' post='2298385']
General view for me is that they're so cheap and I have so many of them that it's not really much of an issue either way.
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Well, maybe I'm just odd in that I don't have any spare KETTLE LEADS, and never have. I've never seen the need to until now...

If I bought an amp, having sold or traded my current one (see what I did there?) with it's lead, and my new amp arrived sans cable - I would be in the frustrating position of being unable to even try it out. I take the point that they are cheap, but I would then have to order one and wait for it to arrive...

So what I have learned from this thread is to ASK the seller if the amp comes with a cable (whatever its name). If it doesn't, then that gives me a few days to purchase one. And everyone is happy - including the bloody skinflint who thinks it appropriate to sell and amp with no mains connector!!!

[Musky]

I'm with all those who said they'd expect the lead to be included but not at all bothered if it wasn't.

All though there are benefits to not having a lead included. A little while ago a bought a keyboard off Ebay and it arrived with a hole punched through the casing near the output jack, which had clearly happened when the package was dropped on to the enclosed mains lead...

So perhaps the sellers are just thinking of the safety of your new purchase?

[discreet]

Interesting to note that currently 109 members have voted on the crucial issue of power cables yet November's Composition Competition attracted only 26 votes in total. Thhhpp! Thpppp! Thhp! Thp!

Having said that, I actually missed the voting deadline (due to life issues) so appreciate the hypocrisy of this post.

Edited December 6, 2013 by discreet

[karlfer]

So, not having a spare for my GK MB 500 (13 Amp) how about a link to one that may be considered by some to be the best one?

[discreet]

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1386321094' post='2298626']
So, not having a spare for my GK MB 500 (13 Amp) how about a link to one that may be considered by some to be the best one?
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*Posts link to £20,000 power cable followed by link to YouTube video debunking myths about high-end audio gear*

Edited December 6, 2013 by discreet

[karlfer]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1386321838' post='2298639']
*Posts link to £20,000 power cable followed by link to YouTube video debunking myths about high-end audio gear*
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Sorry, can't see that link?

[discreet]

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1386321949' post='2298641']
Sorry, can't see that link?
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There isn't one - I couldn't be bothered to Google it. I was hoping all the information necessary would be right there in my post. Though I will find it for you if you really are considering spending £20,000 on a power cable.

[Roland Rock]

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1386321949' post='2298641']


Sorry, can't see that link?
[/quote]

This might help. 22 power cable shoot out
;-)
http://www.head-fi.org/t/219202/its-done-power-cord-shoot-out-22-power-cords-reviewed

[flyfisher]

Why spend £20,000 on a power cable? That would be ridiculous when you can get one of these for less than $7000:
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-NRG-WEL-Signature-Series/dp/B0055OM9WS

(The reviews are pretty funny as well)


Of course, such things are only really worth buying if you're also using £5000 PER METRE speaker cables:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/08/the-most-expensive-cable-in-the-world/

[karlfer]

I know. I thought to reply to the world's greatest piss taker with a little attempt of my own,

[karlfer]

Thank you Mr. Rock. Mind you, noticing a distinct lack of £1.50 items in that shoot out

[TimR]

I would be surprised if you can buy one for £1.50.

B&Q £4.99
Maplins £10.99

I can't think where else you'd get one less than a fiver.

[Jonnyboy Rotten]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1386341185' post='2299019']
I would be surprised if you can buy one for £1.50.

B&Q £4.99
Maplins £10.99

I can't think where else you'd get one less than a fiver.
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[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Mains-240Volt-Kettle-Plug-IEC-C13-1M-5A-TVs-Monitors-PCs-Adapters-Printers-/281207239898?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item417941f4da"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Mains-240Volt-Kettle-Plug-IEC-C13-1M-5A-TVs-Monitors-PCs-Adapters-Printers-/281207239898?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item417941f4da[/url]

[url="http://www.comms-express.com/products/uk-mains-lead-5amp-iec-female-lead/"]http://www.comms-exp...ec-female-lead/[/url]

Edited December 6, 2013 by Jonnyboy Rotten

[tauzero]

I said no because I wouldn't expect someone to put a power lead in. If I'm selling, I include a power lead if I remember to but I regard that as a courtesy rather than an essential part of the transaction.

[tauzero]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1386263475' post='2297947']
Unequivocably, an amp should come with a power cable. How could it be argued otherwise ?

The power cable is part of the amp. It's the part that connects it to the mains.
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Then it should also come with an instrument cable. The instrument cable is part of the amp. It's the part that connects it to the instrument. Oh, and a speaker lead if it's not a combo. The speaker cable is part of the amp, it's the part that connects it to the speaker.

[discreet]

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1386344907' post='2299086']
Then it should also come with an instrument cable. The instrument cable is part of the amp.
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It should come with a bass as well. And a bass player. And his wife. And dog. And so on.

[davehux]

When I buy something secondhand, I expect it to be delivered by Jennifer Anniston, naked, on a unicorn.

I'm usually disappointed.

She never brings a lead

[tauzero]

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1386322617' post='2298658']
This might help. 22 power cable shoot out
;-)
[url="http://www.head-fi.org/t/219202/its-done-power-cord-shoot-out-22-power-cords-reviewed"]http://www.head-fi.o...-cords-reviewed[/url]
[/quote]

Is audiophilia actually some sort of mental illness akin to paranoid schizophrenia? The only more deluded reviews of cables that I've read have been of HDMI cables (where the reviewers actually believe that a cable carrying a digital signal can affect the analogue interpretation of that signal).

[tauzero]

[quote name='davehux' timestamp='1386345321' post='2299099']
When I buy something secondhand, I expect it to be delivered by Jennifer Anniston, naked, on a unicorn.

I'm usually disappointed.

She never brings a lead
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She uses the lead for reins. Didn't you notice?

[discreet]

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1386345814' post='2299107']
She uses the lead for reins. Didn't you notice?
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And the unicorn is actually Bill Turnbull wearing a pointy hat.

[TimR]

[quote name='Jonnyboy Rotten' timestamp='1386342741' post='2299048']

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Mains-240Volt-Kettle-Plug-IEC-C13-1M-5A-TVs-Monitors-PCs-Adapters-Printers-/281207239898?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item417941f4da"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Mains-240Volt-Kettle-Plug-IEC-C13-1M-5A-TVs-Monitors-PCs-Adapters-Printers-/281207239898?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item417941f4da[/url]

[url="http://www.comms-express.com/products/uk-mains-lead-5amp-iec-female-lead/"]http://www.comms-exp...ec-female-lead/[/url]
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The first item says ask seller for delivery options.

The second item is £4.95 for standard delivery and £9.95 for next day delivery.

You can't get a lead for £1.50!

[Jonnyboy Rotten]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1386346365' post='2299117']
The first item says ask seller for delivery options.

The second item is £4.95 for standard delivery and £9.95 for next day delivery.

You can't get a lead for £1.50!
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Of course you can! You never said you wanted it delivered!

[tauzero]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1386346365' post='2299117']
You can't get a lead for £1.50!
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A quick look on That Ebay found me a 2m mains to IEC lead for £1.85 free delivery. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400587074375"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400587074375[/url] So a little above £1-50. However, I certainly wouldn't want you working in a buying department. Er, would you like to buy this £20,000 [s]kettle[/s] mains to IEC lead?

[flyfisher]

Given that most people seem to be in the "I'd expect a lead but wouldn't be bothered if it wasn't included" camp, how
[quote name='Jonnyboy Rotten' timestamp='1386346520' post='2299120']
Of course you can! You never said you wanted it delivered!
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. . . and if it isn't included in the delivery, don't worry because most people have a spare or can buy one for abut £1.50.

Er, hang on . . . .

[Jonnyboy Rotten]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1386346365' post='2299117']
The first item says ask seller for delivery options.

The second item is £4.95 for standard delivery and £9.95 for next day delivery.

You can't get a lead for £1.50!
[/quote]

Correction - the ebay one is free 48hr delivery within the UK.