Dingus Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 For me the difference between a cheesy cover song and a rock classic is around seven pints of beer. Less drink than that and I am [i]way [/i]too cool to enjoy sweaty dad rock , and much more than that and I am likely to be singing "Eye Of The Tiger " with my trousers round my ankles to an assembled audience of police officers and cleaning ladies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybassplayer Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Being in a band !! Never heard any audience member describe any song as cheesy but heard plenty band members ( including me I have to say ) say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Have to agree its the band that usually use the word 'cheese'. We don't play mustang sally because its not really our genre and plus every other band I know plays it. We try to play 'cheesy' songs that not many other bands play. Last Saturday 'Swords of a 1000 men' went down a storm and I consider that to be a bit cheesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 [quote name='bonzodog' timestamp='1386702345' post='2303354'] Last Saturday 'Swords of a 1000 men' went down a storm and I consider that to be a bit cheesy [/quote] We play that I'm always surprised how well it goes down, never thought it was that bigger hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1386675711' post='2302866'] Picking the [i]right[/i] covers [i]is[/i] a fine line and it's got nothing to do with taste, integrity or musicality. But on any level, a full dance floor is a success and you should bottle whatever it is you've done to get em up. There are a lot of musicians with too much "integrity" out there in need of a crate or two! [/quote] great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 [quote name='bonzodog' timestamp='1386702345' post='2303354'] Last Saturday 'Swords of a 1000 men' went down a storm and I consider that to be a bit cheesy [/quote] [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1386703079' post='2303383'] We play that I'm always surprised how well it goes down, never thought it was that bigger hit [/quote] Quality song - have been trying - for years - to get my punk covers band to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1386710438' post='2303575'] Quality song - have been trying - for years - to get my punk covers band to do this. [/quote] Always goes down well and very easy to play....you wont regret playing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='bonzodog' timestamp='1386710841' post='2303584'] Always goes down well and very easy to play....you wont regret playing it [/quote] once you've all figured out where all the stops are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 we intend to finish with that on Saturday , the place bounces , it is really fun to play. We will play most except van morrison , proclaimers and beautiful south , the drummer just starts seething when the mention even crops up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthos Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1386677282' post='2302899'] Too true - I did it with a band and the guitarist stopped and asked why I wasn't playing! [/quote] A well attuned musical ear your guitarist has there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1386750344' post='2303900'] we intend to finish with that on Saturday , the place bounces , it is really fun to play. We will play most except van morrison , proclaimers and beautiful south , the drummer just starts seething when the mention even crops up . [/quote] 500 miles always goes down well Fa d da da Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1386749494' post='2303889'] once you've all figured out where all the stops are [/quote] I am in charge of stops in our band. Nobody stops unless i lift the neck of my bass up. We have the same problem with Town Called Malice. Our drummer would always stop for the bass solo end of second verse instead of after the M8, resulting in the song only lasting about a minute and a half!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='bonzodog' timestamp='1386755174' post='2303959'] I am in charge of stops in our band. Nobody stops unless i lift the neck of my bass up. We have the same problem with Town Called Malice. Our drummer would always stop for the bass solo end of second verse instead of after the M8, resulting in the song only lasting about a minute and a half!! [/quote] We have the same problem with Malice , so we don't have the solo anymore , we then wait till the guitarist brings us back in as no one seems ready for the verse without a decent string bend , so sometimes he leaves us carrying on and has a bit of a laugh with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Cheesey songs: Chaumes me the way - Peter Frampton Anything my Mozzarella Fitzgerald or Grate Funk Railroad Tomme Sawyer - Rush Baby Bels of Berlin - Lone Star Jeremy - Pearl Jam (featuring the voice of Eddie Cheddar) Long road out of Edam - Eagles The Paneer within - Waterboys Halloumi - Lionel Richie Beaufort the law - Clash Raclette it Brie - Beatles The Epoisse - Rush Munster - The Automatic Camembert on a cheese string - J. S. Bach Stilton love with you - Thin Lizzy Tread caerphilly - Julie Collings And so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1386676216' post='2302877'] it don't get cheesier than Nellie the Elephant, always our final song, but yeah there's a lot of snobbery going off when bands say 'we're not doing this or that because its too cheesy, a pissed up crowd on a Saturday night love to singalong to a cheesy/classic song (delete as applicable), and we are entertainers aren't we? [/quote] I don't see Nellie The Elephant as a cheesy song. It's just a fun song. Playing something like Copacabana would be cheesy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1386760026' post='2304062'] I don't see Nellie The Elephant as a cheesy song. It's just a fun song. [/quote] yep, you've convinced me, one man's cheesy is another man's classic is a another man's fun song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1386760996' post='2304079'] yep, you've convinced me, one man's cheesy is another man's classic is a another man's fun song [/quote] Indeed. Perhaps we've discovered that there is a very thin line between 'cheesy', 'classic' and 'fun' songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 We played Mustang Sally last night. We had a band of top players and it [i]cooked[/i]. Great number and there wasn't a bum on a seat for the whole set after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386758841' post='2304035'] Cheesey songs: Chaumes me the way - Peter Frampton Anything my Mozzarella Fitzgerald or Grate Funk Railroad Tomme Sawyer - Rush Baby Bels of Berlin - Lone Star Jeremy - Pearl Jam (featuring the voice of Eddie Cheddar) Long road out of Edam - Eagles The Paneer within - Waterboys Halloumi - Lionel Richie Beaufort the law - Clash Raclette it Brie - Beatles The Epoisse - Rush Munster - The Automatic Camembert on a cheese string - J. S. Bach Stilton love with you - Thin Lizzy Tread caerphilly - Julie Collings And so on... [/quote] Not forgetting Dolly Parton's B.O.U.R.S.I.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenochrome Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Play songs that you like and are passionate about whether that be well known or a bit more 'niche' - then temper that with a little bit of commercial sensibility. Work extremely hard at what you do and with good enough musicians you will be successful. DO care about the details. DO squeeze every last bit out of what you have available, even if that means different people singing lead, different people singing harmonies on different songs, or playing that tricky keyboard part on your bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Perspective (to answer the OP's question) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='ead' timestamp='1386770226' post='2304251'] Perspective (to answer the OP's question) [/quote] Perspective? Isn't that an old Barry Manilow track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386758841' post='2304035'] Cheesey songs: Chaumes me the way - Peter Frampton Anything my Mozzarella Fitzgerald or Grate Funk Railroad Tomme Sawyer - Rush Baby Bels of Berlin - Lone Star Jeremy - Pearl Jam (featuring the voice of Eddie Cheddar) Long road out of Edam - Eagles The Paneer within - Waterboys Halloumi - Lionel Richie Beaufort the law - Clash Raclette it Brie - Beatles The Epoisse - Rush Munster - The Automatic Camembert on a cheese string - J. S. Bach Stilton love with you - Thin Lizzy Tread caerphilly - Julie Collings And so on... [/quote] Outf***ingstanding list. Ten times better than BC's usual fish puns. You have my respect, Sir. As for why some songs do better than others. It's all in the hook, see. Example: Back in the mists of time, Queen decided that they needed more audience participation - so they wrote a string of songs including We Will Rock You, We are The Champions, Hammer, etc. Cheesy, perhaps, but crowd-pleasers deluxe. There's no business like 'Show'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1386765404' post='2304152'] Not forgetting Dolly Parton's B.O.U.R.S.I.N. [/quote] Cheese Release Me I talk to the Bries Philadelphia Freedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 A couple of years ago, me and a few pals were in Poole getting drunk. We stumbled into a. Pub covers band. 'Breaking the law' I yelled. 'Who said that?' Yells mr.vox- 'you got it!' . This was followed by rock you like a hurricane/lights out/ mr.crowley etc. Awesome. We chatted for ages afterwards. band were called permanent vacation. Speaking of cheese, primus anybody ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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