Toasted Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='PauBass' timestamp='1386837896' post='2305074'] I only meant I see the argument starting again, I have never contributed to any of them, I have my opinion but I accept and tolerate others. The way I see it, as with any other bit of kit, it's very easy, if you like those cabs fine, if not fine too!... But stop telling people how sh*t you think they are, we all have different tastes and opinions and respecting them should be paramount! I have never seen so much bad talk about a brand, some very nasty comments....and having recently tried two of their cabs I understand it even less. [/quote] [i]I only meant I see the adulation starting again, I have never contributed to any of them, I have my opinion but I accept and tolerate others. The way I see it, as with any other bit of kit, it's very easy, if you like those cabs fine, if not fine too!... But stop telling people how amazing you think they are, we all have different tastes and opinions and respecting them should be paramount! I have never seen so much hype talk about a brand, some ridiculously enthusiastic comments....and having recently tried two of their cabs and heard about the myriad quality issues on this forum I understand it even less.[/i] It's not that different - is it mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386842471' post='2305140'] It wasn't EBS freak that this post was addressed to. It was Toasted. [/quote] You're not getting a hard-on for me too are you? I've not even been flirting. Edited December 12, 2013 by Toasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='andydye' timestamp='1386840342' post='2305108'] I now have a (sadly out of production) EAD Foundation 212 [/quote] Sadly indeed. I'd love one of those... I suspect that many cabs would sound a bit rough in comparison (to what I've read/heard). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1386842644' post='2305147'] You're not getting a hard-on for me too are you? I've not even been flirting. [/quote] You [b][i]too[/i][/b]?? You clearly have a very high opinion of yourself and make yourself very happy. I'm pleased for you. Which makes two of us I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386842646' post='2305148'] Sadly indeed. I'd love one of those... I suspect that many cabs would sound a bit rough in comparison (to what I've read/heard). [/quote] Indeedy mate, it's a pleasure every time I play through it! ...and a real shame that Dave's just not got the interest in them to warrant making another batch! They're unspeakably amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShergoldSnickers Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I once filled a slot ported bass cab (home-made) with an redundant eider-down - filled with feathers. I can't help wondering what that would have looked like if it had split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='andydye' timestamp='1386843178' post='2305156'] Indeedy mate, it's a pleasure every time I play through it! ...and a real shame that Dave's just not got the interest in them to warrant making another batch! They're unspeakably amazing! [/quote] If you ever consider selling it.... can I have forst ebbs/dibs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [i][b]The Redundant Eiderdown[/b][/i] were a great band, but you really needed to be tripping to appreciate their stuff ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386843653' post='2305167'] If you ever consider selling it.... can I have forst ebbs/dibs? [/quote] I'll put you on the list mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1386843656' post='2305168'] [i][b]The Redundant Eiderdown[/b][/i] were a great band, but you really needed to be tripping to appreciate their stuff ... [/quote] Or asleep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='andydye' timestamp='1386843178' post='2305156'] Indeedy mate, it's a pleasure every time I play through it! ...and a real shame that Dave's just not got the interest in them to warrant making another batch! They're unspeakably amazing! [/quote] I was impressed by how much effort he put into those. I never heard one but you could tell there was no penny-pinching going on and their external appearance was as good as anything on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1386844243' post='2305183'] I never heard one but you could tell there was no penny-pinching going on ... [/quote] Yup, best way to judge a cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1386841487' post='2305123'] If you buy an essentially hand-made item from a boutique manufacturer, then this sort of odd production niggle is part & parcel of the experience. I've read enough of your posts over the years to know that you don't need me telling you about this. [/quote] Barefaced is CNC - hand assembled at best. They are putting together cabs on what is, albeit a small one, assembly line. All made to a certain spec, or a derivitation of as specified by themselves. The problems that have been reported by others in other threads, don't follow this... routing bodies, hand carving necks, hand winding pickups, custom circuits... much different kettle of fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skychaserhigh Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Who? Please could you define (in terms of building bass cabs) 'properly'? One answer to that is Marc Vanderkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1386845077' post='2305197'] All made to a certain spec, or a derivitation of as specified by themselves. The problems that have been reported by others in other threads, don't follow this... routing bodies, hand carving necks, hand winding pickups, custom circuits... much different kettle of fish. [/quote] Google Translate, from the original Latvian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropzone Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 I am more than happy with the Barefaced Cabs. I bought the compact a few years ago second hand and it had had a tough life already and I have only ever used it on "rediculously loud" playing in a loud heavy metal band and not going through the PA but still loud enough to have a strong presence in the mix. I suspect someone who plays at a sensible level would notice the difference in sound but I haven't neither has anyone at any of our gigs. I get the bit about more surface area which makes a lot of sense. I get the new amp on boxing day so will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1386845324' post='2305200'] Google Translate, from the original Latvian? [/quote] What don't you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1386845077' post='2305197'] Barefaced is CNC - hand assembled at best. They are putting together cabs on what is, albeit a small one, assembly line. All made to a certain spec, or a derivitation of as specified by themselves. The problems that have been reported by others in other threads, don't follow this... routing bodies, hand carving necks, hand winding pickups, custom circuits... much different kettle of fish. [/quote] I think, though far from sure, that the OP's is a gen 1 Compact which would be pre-CNC, not 100% on that though; shouldn't really make a difference to QC though IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1386844619' post='2305191'] Yup, best way to judge a cab. [/quote] I didn't say it was the best way, but it's one of the ways you can judge the value of a product (not just cabs) and how long it is likely to remain trouble-free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG Flatline Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1386854420' post='2305370'] I didn't say it was the best way, but it's one of the ways you can judge the value of a product (not just cabs) and how long it is likely to remain trouble-free. [/quote] The value of a product is what the consumer will pay for it, it has nothing to do with the summed value of the component parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guylewis Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Is anyone certain it was the [i]wadding[/i] that "blew" or indeed exactly what the material was/is? This whole thread strikes me as being unfair on the manufacturer until the facts are known - its all hearsay up to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='TG Flatline' timestamp='1386855462' post='2305391'] The value of a product is what the consumer will pay for it, it has nothing to do with the summed value of the component parts. [/quote] I didn't say anything about the summed value of the component parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG Flatline Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1386856742' post='2305416'] I didn't say anything about the summed value of the component parts. [/quote] How else do you penny pinch if not on the value of a product's components? Looking specifically at a speaker cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brensabre79 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I really don't understand all the passionate hatred being spread on here. Forgetting for a moment that it is directed at a fellow BassChatter. We are all entitled to our opinions of what is good/bad gear. We are not entitled to ram it down everybody's throats on what seems to be an almost daily basis. Hey, I tried some stuff out when I was looking for a cab a couple of years ago, and there was stuff I didn't like, stuff I thought was overpriced tut, and stuff that was just plain bad. If anyone asks for a recommendation I'll be happy to make a suggestion. What I will not do is ridicule, exaggerate and prattle on like I've got some kind of hidden agenda over and over again. None of this is helping the OP in this case, and every other thread I read where the B word is mentioned. For the record, I've had 5 niggles with my 63 reg BMW since I purchased it (September 1st), blowing exhaust, broken xenon light and 3 separate rattles. Each time I went back to dealer who apologised and fixed it. I have had two niggles with my Super12 in 2 years - handle worn, still functions but looks tatty, I asked Alex who said he'd replace them with new ones (at cost). The other thing is the rubber foot, which I carelessly bashed on a step - Again Alex was more than happy to fix it. I have had both of these issues with many other cabs. Both companies were apologetic, responsive and offered a solution. I also had a Rickenbacker once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauBass Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1386842481' post='2305142'] [i]I only meant I see the adulation starting again, I have never contributed to any of them, I have my opinion but I accept and tolerate others. The way I see it, as with any other bit of kit, it's very easy, if you like those cabs fine, if not fine too!... But stop telling people how amazing you think they are, we all have different tastes and opinions and respecting them should be paramount! I have never seen so much hype talk about a brand, some ridiculously enthusiastic comments....and having recently tried two of their cabs and heard about the myriad quality issues on this forum I understand it even less.[/i] It's not that different - is it mate? [/quote] Wow that must have taken you ages to write! Anyway, please, quote me one post, if you can, on which I have hyped Barefaced or made any ridiculous comments. On the other hand, I could post quite a few from you slagging the Barefaced brand off just because you don't like it...not liking something it's right, but some attitudes are not, I'm afraid.. Edited December 12, 2013 by PauBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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