Fionn Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I realise that the guy is a musical genius, but I get the impression he's a bit of a kn0b. Check out the way he throws his guitars around. He has a 1954 Strat (one of the first 10 strats ever made!!!) which he just clashes onto the ground, banging it against other highly valuable guitars. Aaaargh!!! ... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZeOOsSgx2Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZeOOsSgx2Q[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Saw him live in 1988, with Joe Lynn Turner (famous wig-sporter) on vocals. Great player, very dull gig, Encores went on forever, with just one mega-solo wig-out (sorry JLT) after another. I've still got a pick of his (he threw a load into the crowd) which I grabbed off the floor when everyone was leaving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 quote 'he's a bit of a kn0b' ha ha, i met him and this was my thought exactly :^) he can play but it gets dull rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) Dont mention him to a drummer friend of mine who toured with him the 80's Edited December 11, 2013 by JTUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurhenry Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 He's well known for treating his guitars in this way, but he owns them and plays the hell out of them, so I suppose he can do what he wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulconnolly Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I've got Rising Force's Odyssey album. I enjoy listening to it when I play, which ain't often. Is he a genius? I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 My favourite Malmsteen video: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gEVhpEz59E[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) He threw a guitar body into the crowd at a hammy o gig about 6/7 years ago. I caught it and gave it to my friend. He met him a few years later and got it autographed . Malmsteen always personalises his sig, to reduce the value of it . He is an arrogant tw@t, but can back it up. I quite like him;) Wish my ipad could relate to the you tube clips ;( Edited December 11, 2013 by RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 He's not the new guitar messiah.......he's just a very naughty boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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arthurhenry Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='timo' timestamp='1386788429' post='2304600'] My favourite Malmsteen video: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gEVhpEz59E[/media] [/quote] Yngwie Tufnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Never liked him or his music. An amazing talent but I couldn't name one single song and I was subjected to a Rising Force album a lot in the late 80s. I remember him being criticised by the press for his gut overhanging his lace up leather trousers and sadly this is what I always think of when he comes to mind. Just goes to show you can practice all the scales but if you look a chump.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yngwie never could decide whether he wanted to be a classical musician, a rock star, a featured virtuoso player, a showman or a band member. So he tried to do all of them -- and overdid them all. And consequently he never got much recognition beyond being a novelty. Now, he's a parody of the excessive overplayer. The problem with Yngwie musically is a great as his technique may be, he plays every note he knows in every song. So after 5 mintes, you've heard all you're going to hear. And that's boring. And that's why he never went too far. There are tens of thousands of guys (and gals, and even children) who can play that fast. Yngwie showed everyone that the rabbit is in the hat. Now, ow one cares. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmALm66sENs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LskRHAEioVk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Oh, wait a minute -- here's one by an 8 year old. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvSzBdqzgnw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengreen49 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 [quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1386790172' post='2304651'] Wish my ipad could relate to the you tube clips ;( [/quote] I can't see them on my kindle either. I just hit the quote button on the post and then copy the address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I suspect the infamous "Unleash the fookin' fury" tape didn't help his PR either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 He's amazing. I adore what he does but in fairly small doses these days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOeThyZt1vg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tappel Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1386785707' post='2304551'] Dont mention him to a drummer friend of mine who toured with him the 80's [/quote] Ha! i also have a drummer friend who toured/recorded with Malmsteen. It didn't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1386786932' post='2304576'] He's well known for treating his guitars in this way, but he owns them and plays the hell out of them, so I suppose he can do what he wants to. [/quote] Exactly. They're just guitars, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Fionn' timestamp='1386784420' post='2304527'] I realise that the guy is a musical genius [/quote] maybe if he had the compositional and arrangment skills of vai the improvisational skills of holdsworth the musicality of mike keneally i could go on but you get the point imho etc etc genius and guitar in the same sentence really should be reserved for special cases like Mr Hendrix Malmsteen is a super proficient widdler. That is all ....IMHO etc etc shame about the guitars ... you are right .... that does indeed make him a [s]bit[/s] lot of a dick i hope this helps Edited December 12, 2013 by steve-bbb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Fionn' timestamp='1386784420' post='2304527'] I realise that the guy is a musical genius, but I get the impression he's a bit of a kn0b. Check out the way he throws his guitars around. He has a 1954 Strat (one of the first 10 strats ever made!!!) which he just clashes onto the ground, banging it against other highly valuable guitars. Aaaargh!!! ... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZeOOsSgx2Q[/media] [/quote] Ya, it's a Malmsteen Strat... did you hear me the first time, it's a Maaaalmsteen Strat... and that's a Malmsteen signature, ya, and that's a Malmsteen cable... did I mention that I'm Yngwie Malmsteen? Genuinely, all Malmsteen, ya.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Rich Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Great player: [url="http://www.stsanders.com/www/pages/videos/guitar-shreds/yngwie-malmsteen-shreds.php"]http://www.stsanders.com/www/pages/videos/guitar-shreds/yngwie-malmsteen-shreds.php[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ah yes the boy who wanted to be Hendrix and Blackmore and never grew up. Grew out quite a bit though. Lowender has him pretty much summed up in post 13. I also saw him with Turner on the Odyssey tour and felt I'd pretty much seen everything he had to offer in one gig and it wasn't worth going again so I never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil625sxc Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 @JTUK - would this be PB by any chance ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yup, post #13 by Lowender sums it up, I also think. I loved his first solo album, and his playing in Alcatrazz. "No parole for Rock and roll" by Alcatrazz was a great album (was that from 1981 or 1983? I can't recall). Graham Bonnet's vocals are awesome, and Yngwie plays a lot and plays fast, but there is a lot of melody there and it seems that the solos do have a point and are part of the song. It's one of my all time favourite albums. The first Rising Force album was recorded at around the same time, and finished just a bit later, and it showed a -to me- very interesting guitar player. It can get a bit widdly widdly at times, but the compositions are more sensible than what he did a few years later and until now. It was also quite different from what anybody else seemed to be doing. That album made an impact on me and I still play it regularly. Only two tracks had vocals, so I treat it as a guitar instrumental album, and for me it's stil unsurpassed. I listened to and liked a lot of stuff by Tony MacAlpine, Vai, Satriani... there's great stuff from all of them, but that first solo album by Malmsteen remains fresh and awe-inspiring to me. The second album is not bad, but it starts getting into widdle-festing too much. The Third, Trilogy, is incredibly dated... you hear a bit of it and immediately you know it was a product of the mid 80s... That's when he turned into "commercial" (he admits in his biography that it's the way he wanted to go, he did not like guitar instrumental albums and did not want to do anything like on the first album)... and then Odyssey arrived. There's some cool stuff in there too, but I think the Malmsteen formula was already well established: every song ever after appears to have teh same kind of tonality and structure, and they're vehicles for excessive soloing in the middle, where each solo appears to be identical to the others, cramming every single note and scale into every single one of them. Yawn. Physically admirable. Musically sterile. And live... he seems to do that only faster, and he destroys the solos that sounded like actual compositions by giving in to the urge of adding a few thousand extra notes per minute. It gets boring really fast. But the guy knows what he wants, worked hard, and got it. He does come across as a little bit arrogant... I never met him personally, so I don't know. I imagine he has to deal with a LOT of bullshit nearly everyday, and I can easily imagine I could sound a lot like him if I had to endure the same kind of crap constantly for years. What frustrates me is that he has the ability and ear to create something truly beautiful... but he just does not seem interested anymore. Of course, beauty is subjective. Still, even his detractors have to admit he has a vibrato to die for. I love his guitar sound and vibrato and general expressivity... when he calms down for a second and lets it flow freely. Yum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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