bobbytodd Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 my wifes just asked what I want for Christmas and I really couldn't think of anything at first.i have a vmj so would it be worth asking santa for a set of pick ups to drop into it?would I notice a massive difference from the Duncan design ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Oh yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytodd Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 cheers lol she can order them now.then ill put the Duncan design pick ups into my old samick its a nice bass to play but it has really weak pick ups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytodd Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 ordered.is it worth upgrading the pots while I have it apart.if so any recomendations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 [quote name='bobbytodd' timestamp='1387138586' post='2308620'] ordered.is it worth upgrading the pots while I have it apart.if so any recomendations [/quote] I think if you`re treating yourself, contact KiOgon above - his wiring looms are reported on here as being the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 [quote name='bobbytodd' timestamp='1387138586' post='2308620'] ordered.is it worth upgrading the pots while I have it apart.if so any recomendations [/quote]Definitely - with a quality set of innards you're upgrading the bass to USA spec (internally), where it matters. [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1387138757' post='2308624'] I think if you`re treating yourself, contact KiOgon above - his wiring looms are reported on here as being the business. [/quote]Cheerz, Lozz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgbass Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I like the CS60's in my Precision. A nice full sound from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dingus Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Do you mean the Jazz Bass set? If so , they are indeed great -sounding pickups. One of the best I have ever heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytodd Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 yes its the jazz set im getting so im pleased to hear that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I've got 60's custom shop in my '76 jazz (thats how I bought it). It's gonna be different to the Seymors but not necessarily better to your ears. I remember playing a warmoth body - vintage neck jazz with Seymors in and honestly I can't really tell which one I like better. The CS 60s are supposed to sound like the original vintage 60s pups but they aren't made the same way, also there's always the wood-pups-player combination that affect the sound greatly. I've heard my musicman stingray5 played by a few different people and they all sounded different ... I am buying a set of original 70's for my bass now, I know there won't be much of a difference (or would it?) but as Bass Doc said to me - you will feel better So good luck and I hope you'll like them, if you don't , there's always the 30 days return policy Steff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 [quote name='Steff' timestamp='1387189529' post='2309049'] I've got 60's custom shop in my '76 jazz (thats how I bought it). It's gonna be different to the Seymors but not necessarily better to your ears. I remember playing a warmoth body - vintage neck jazz with Seymors in and honestly I can't really tell which one I like better. The CS 60s are supposed to sound like the original vintage 60s pups but they aren't made the same way, also there's always the wood-pups-player combination that affect the sound greatly. I've heard my musicman stingray5 played by a few different people and they all sounded different ... I am buying a set of original 70's for my bass now, I know there won't be much of a difference (or would it?) but as Bass Doc said to me - you will feel better So good luck and I hope you'll like them, if you don't , there's always the 30 days return policy Steff [/quote] Just to clarify, the O.P is thinking about changing the Duncan-designed pickups that came as standard on his Squier VM Jazz ,rather than a set of USA-made Seymour Duncan Jazz Bass pickups, which would be, as you quite rightly point out, a bit of a sideways move in terms of upgrading. On the subject of your 70's Jazz, a set of genuine original '70's Jazz pickups should actually sound very different to the Fender CS60's you have now for a whole host of reasons, not least of all that the CS60's are overwound for more output and a more meaty tone, whereas as during the 1970's Fender began to progressively underwind their pickups as a way of making them cheaper to manufacture, as well as swtiching to ceramic wire for a while at a certain point in the mid '70's. Inadvertently, the result was a very different sounding pickup that helped give the 1970's basses their characteristic sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Good point about the Duncan designed pups, I've just put a pair of 70s pickups in mine(thanks to Bass Doc), so the CS 60s will be up for sale soon. Already can hear a difference plugged in my computer, can't wait to test them on a gig tomorrow! There's a few treads on talkbass about the difference between CS 60s and original 60s pups, some guy did a A/B and found significant(in my opinion) differences. The CS sounded more refined, smoother, with more mellow highs. The original 60s were much punchier which is actually what I really value in a Fender basses because they already have those nice soft lows and for my playing I need a pickups that'll be nice and smooth when I play light and punchy and growly when I dig in. I can already hear the 70s I just got are much closer to that than the CS 60s. And I can confirm, I already feel better ... Edited December 21, 2013 by Steff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I have a kiogon loom in my jazz. A massive upgrade compared to any stock fender one I've had my hands on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytodd Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 thanx to kiogon for the loom installed the pick ups today.not as loud as I was expecting but what a nice mellow tone from them and no buzz at all. very pleased with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 [quote name='Steff' timestamp='1387587701' post='2313716'] Good point about the Duncan designed pups, I've just put a pair of 70s pickups in mine(thanks to Bass Doc), so the CS 60s will be up for sale soon. Already can hear a difference plugged in my computer, can't wait to test them on a gig tomorrow! There's a few treads on talkbass about the difference between CS 60s and original 60s pups, some guy did a A/B and found significant(in my opinion) differences. The CS sounded more refined, smoother, with more mellow highs. The original 60s were much punchier which is actually what I really value in a Fender basses because they already have those nice soft lows and for my playing I need a pickups that'll be nice and smooth when I play light and punchy and growly when I dig in. I can already hear the 70s I just got are much closer to that than the CS 60s. And I can confirm, I already feel better ... [/quote] The more mellow highs on the CS60's is partly due to the slight overwinding. It makes the pickup a little bit louder and pushes the lower midrange frequencies a bit more , but the trade-off is that it rolls off the treble response. A lot of '70's Fender Jazz pickups , especially mid to late 70's ones, have got significantly less wire on them so the treble is more extended and the mids have a slightly different emphasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytodd Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 just had practice with the bass very happy.i didn't notice any finger noise from the strings.had the neck volume on about full and the bridge at 30% and it sat well in the mix.the Duncan design pick ups and wiring loom are now in my old samick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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