JohanSegeborn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] Hi! Here is a new bass Shoot Out. In the Youtube clip below I compare 11 basses: [/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym5lUOL-btU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym5lUOL-btU[/url][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] The basses are: 1. 2013 Gibson RD, Krist Novoselic 2. 2013 Fender Jazz Bass, American Deluxe 3. 2013 Rickenbacker 4003 4. 2013 Fender Jaguar 5. 2013 Fender Starcaster 6. 2013 Gretsch Electromatic 7. 2010 Gibson Thunderbird 8. 1970s Stagg EB-3 9. 1990s Cort Precision, P-Bass 10. 1965 Gibson EB-2 11. 1973 Fender Precision, P-Bass In my previous clips I played through a combo. However, many of you pointed out that the differences in sound would be better accentuated in a 'line-in' setup, with cleaner settings. So, here I use a Universal Audio 2-610 preamp straight in into the sound interface. Please tell me what you think! Cheers Johan Youtube Channel [/font][/color] [url="http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyaStghQb7_e51PgH8bUkzg?feature=watch"]http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyaStghQb7_e51PgH8bUkzg?feature=watch[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 This is much better. I enjoyed the sound of your last video but I felt the overdriven amp disguised the actual sound of the basses too much. On this video, I really liked the deeper muddier sounding basses as they sounded better in the context of the music you played as a backing track. I especially liked the Gibson EB-2. The others I liked were the Gibson RD, The Thunderbird and The Stagg EB-3 . I think it's worthwhile trying the same thing with a different style of music to show how basses sound better or worse depending on the style of music they are playing within. For example the Jazz Bass may have been my favorite sound if the backing track had been funkier, or the Rickenbacker if the backing was rockier. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Really good video, great editing. I love the headphone monkey :-D Standout favourites for me were the Gibson RD, the Ric with mutes and the Precision. My least favourites were the Starcaster and the EB2 Well done and thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedave Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Nice work. I'll take a Starcaster and a Thunderbird please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Great video all round , Johan . The clean tone makes all the difference, and it's a really fascinating comparison between the different basses. Keep up the good work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 The Thunderbird and believe it or not the Ricky did it for me and I am not a Ricky fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 [quote name='Thunderbird' timestamp='1387569893' post='2313579'] The Thunderbird and believe it or not the Ricky did it for me and I am not a Ricky fan [/quote] +1. Ric and the Thunderbird for me please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 [quote name='JohanSegeborn' timestamp='1387483345' post='2312637']...[color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Please tell me what you think!...[/font][/color][/quote] Good evening, Johan... Thanks for taking the time and trouble to produce such a 'class' video and 'shoot-out'. Special mention for the playing in which there are no apparent signs of boredom. A fine feat in itself..! Your 'wrap-up' comments ring true to me, in suggesting that any and all of the instruments featured have a place in the spectrum, and will each shine depending on context. You managed to slip in a quick 'extra' for the Rickie, with and without mutes; it's understandable why you can't reasonably be expected to go through the entire gamut of all the basses, with their tone rolled off, or switching and combining p/ups. Nevertheless, a fair rendering of the tonal differences is clearly portrayed. Some extremes in the choice of basses, from quite high-end to 'starter' models; despite this, none disgraced themselves (imho...), at least sonically. Any more to be compared..? I can't help you there, I'm afraid; I'm a drummer..! Maybe a few older 'classics', to hold up against their reissue brethren..? Thumbs well and truly up, in any case. Many thanks for sharing; I for one learned a good deal from that, and enjoyed doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks Johan. Nicely done.. Subscribed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Another great video ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1387617487' post='2313794'] Thanks Johan. Nicely done.. Subscribed. [/quote] Same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 First up, congrats on the video, the added split screen visuals were more entertaining than just watching someone play for 10 minutes or so; loving the headphone monkey! The basses I liked the best were, quite possibly, the cheapest - the Jaguar and the Stagg copy, although the Fender P was very nice too. For future 'shoot-outs' it'd be interesting, if possible of course, to hear some boutique exotica head to head, with a couple of mainstream basses thrown in for balance; what do you really get, aurally at least, for all that extra money? Great work Johan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cytania Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Artfully done video, you are skilled Johan, excellent funky playing. [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. 2013 Gibson RD, Krist Novoselic - Very likeable, rounded, balanced but with a tiny bit of grit.[/font][/color] [font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#000000"]2. 2013 Fender Jazz Bass, American Deluxe - Not very defined for a jazz, less clang more rounded woolliness.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. 2013 Rickenbacker 4003 - Trashy but commanding, reminds me of my Nuggets 60s garage punk CDs, cheap sounding but utterly gets the listener's attention. Even the mute was interesting and funky.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]4. 2013 Fender Jaguar - Retiring, it doesn't want to be anywhere but at the back of the mix.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5. 2013 Fender Starcaster - Muffled, goes into the distant background of the mix :-([/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]6. 2013 Gretsch Electromatic - Lacks personality, soft with a tiny bit of edge.[/font][/color] [font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#000000"]7. 2010 Gibson Thunderbird - Big, gruff, like a high tension steel cable on a suspension bridge being plucked. Commanding. Stadium metal and Bootsy funk attack.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]8. 1970s Stagg EB-3 - Another muffled tone, better than the Starcaster though.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]9. 1990s Cort Precision, P-Bass - Funky, touch of nasal fuzz breakup. Good.[/font][/color] [font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#000000"]10. 1965 Gibson EB-2 - Muffled but manic, 80s synth-computer edge to the tone. Carpety.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]11. 1973 Fender Precision, P-Bass - Ah, at last articulation is back. B[/font][/color][font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#000000"]arky.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Surprise favourite was the Rickenbacker, maybe it was just a good contrast for the funky tune but I was impressed with how it talked.[/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Thought the TBird, Ric and Cort were killer. I'm regretting selling my TBird now, because now I have to buy another back along with a Ric. Thanks for posting this, it was a real tonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanSegeborn Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks cytania! Love your description of the T-bird!! [quote name='cytania' timestamp='1387746415' post='2315209'] Artfully done video, you are skilled Johan, excellent funky playing. [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. 2013 Gibson RD, Krist Novoselic - Very likeable, rounded, balanced but with a tiny bit of grit.[/font][/color] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#000000]2. 2013 Fender Jazz Bass, American Deluxe - Not very defined for a jazz, less clang more rounded woolliness.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. 2013 Rickenbacker 4003 - Trashy but commanding, reminds me of my Nuggets 60s garage punk CDs, cheap sounding but utterly gets the listener's attention. Even the mute was interesting and funky.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]4. 2013 Fender Jaguar - Retiring, it doesn't want to be anywhere but at the back of the mix.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5. 2013 Fender Starcaster - Muffled, goes into the distant background of the mix :-([/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]6. 2013 Gretsch Electromatic - Lacks personality, soft with a tiny bit of edge.[/font][/color] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#000000]7. 2010 Gibson Thunderbird - Big, gruff, like a high tension steel cable on a suspension bridge being plucked. Commanding. Stadium metal and Bootsy funk attack.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]8. 1970s Stagg EB-3 - Another muffled tone, better than the Starcaster though.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]9. 1990s Cort Precision, P-Bass - Funky, touch of nasal fuzz breakup. Good.[/font][/color] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#000000]10. 1965 Gibson EB-2 - Muffled but manic, 80s synth-computer edge to the tone. Carpety.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]11. 1973 Fender Precision, P-Bass - Ah, at last articulation is back. B[/font][/color][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#000000]arky.[/color][/font] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Surprise favourite was the Rickenbacker, maybe it was just a good contrast for the funky tune but I was impressed with how it talked.[/font][/color] [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanSegeborn Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks Douglas! Appreciate the feedback! [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1387591559' post='2313740'] Good evening, Johan... Thanks for taking the time and trouble to produce such a 'class' video and 'shoot-out'. Special mention for the playing in which there are no apparent signs of boredom. A fine feat in itself..! Your 'wrap-up' comments ring true to me, in suggesting that any and all of the instruments featured have a place in the spectrum, and will each shine depending on context. You managed to slip in a quick 'extra' for the Rickie, with and without mutes; it's understandable why you can't reasonably be expected to go through the entire gamut of all the basses, with their tone rolled off, or switching and combining p/ups. Nevertheless, a fair rendering of the tonal differences is clearly portrayed. Some extremes in the choice of basses, from quite high-end to 'starter' models; despite this, none disgraced themselves (imho...), at least sonically. Any more to be compared..? I can't help you there, I'm afraid; I'm a drummer..! Maybe a few older 'classics', to hold up against their reissue brethren..? Thumbs well and truly up, in any case. Many thanks for sharing; I for one learned a good deal from that, and enjoyed doing so. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanSegeborn Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks for the kind words, gjones, Roland Rock, davedave, Dingus, Thunderbird, simon1964, Highfox, Musicman20, Prime_BASS, ezbass and Billy Apple! Cheers! Johan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengreen49 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Very interesting, thanks for taking the time to put this together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2x18 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Great comparison Johan! Very useful! My faves are the Gibson Thunderbird and the Ricky, I was thinking of buying a Starcaster, but don't think I will bother after hearing it in the comparison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiMarco Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks man, great vid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 All sounded a bit fuzzy to me... Think I just like my bass a bit cleaner. Nice playing though The Stagg EB3 sounded the best to me... and that ric sounded f***ing awful.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueslemac Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Didn't help me fight my T-Bird GAS at all! I'm sure there lurks a similar tone somewhere in my Corvette $$. I know there's one in my Variax, but that seems like cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timhiggins Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 nice job Johan, I liked the stagg to,is this a budget model or are the old ones superior ? The jaguar sounded great to me to ,nice playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanSegeborn Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 Thanks! The 70s Staggs were significantly cheaper than the Gibson originals. It was cheap today as well, I bought it at the 2013 Gothenburg Fuzz guitar show for £170! Quality and soundwise this particular instrument is Gibsons equal, I think. Have tried to track down other early Stagg basses but without success, so I cant say if they were generally this good. Cheers Johan [quote name='timhiggins' timestamp='1387839970' post='2316444'] nice job Johan, I liked the stagg to,is this a budget model or are the old ones superior ? The jaguar sounded great to me to ,nice playing. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timhiggins Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Thanks for the response Johan,I shall have to keep my eyes peeled ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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