iconic Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Many thanks excellent explanation....wouldn't of thought such a simple song could seem so complex? was it macca whom said something about the power of band is in the bass? Edited December 31, 2013 by iconic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romberg Bevel Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The bass doesn't sometimes play the Eb - it's deliberate. The progression in the chorus is different than the verse. There's nothing complex at all about this song! It's quite basic songwriting. Don't get me wrong, I like what they've done with it, but it's not that unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB26354 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Yes, the confusion here is because the chords on the first post are wrong. The song would be written in Cm as this is the first chord - although no chordal instrument is playing an Eb so it is implied rather than played. Verse C Bb Ab Bb Pre chorus Ab (2 bars) Gsus4 G Fm Fm/Bb Gm Bb Chorus C Eb Ab Bb Now there are more complex implied harmonies in the song - the Ab in the chorus is clearly a Lydian sound (2nd vocal melody note is D) but that's essentially it. However, the verse and chorus harmony is the same. Only the bass plays an Eb instead of a Bb, which reharmonises it to an Eb chord. It works just as well with a Bb in the bass but adds a bit of colour to the track. A similar thing happens on chord 5 of the Pre chorus. The kbd is playing an Fm but the bass hits a Bb. This is a fourth over the root, but on a minor chord, which is usually less dissonant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Whats a kbd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Are those chords you have written shorthand and just roots... or i'm even more puzzled than i was before if the first posts chords are incorrect? Many thanks for your patience on this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 [quote name='iconic' timestamp='1388612818' post='2324115'] Whats a kbd? [/quote] Keyboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Ahh of course....theres me thinking it was a strange chord i'd never come across?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB26354 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 They're the chords. The chords you mentioned on the first post were wrong. Most of the chords in this song are just triads, e.g. Cm or Bb. I can see why the verse/chorus chords might have been written as C5, Bb5, Ab5 etc. (note that as the key is C minor, whose key signature uses Bb, Eb and Ab, you wouldn't normally write A# or G#), because the keyboard and guitar aren't clearly playing a major or minor 3rd over most of those chords. However, the harmony is there - you can hear it in the bass and backing vocals. That's why it is incorrect to write the chords using the "x5" symbol - which as has been explained elsewhere is a power chord (root and perfect 5th) with no discernible major or minor sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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