4-string-thing Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 [color="#000000"]I’ve recently decided that small and light is the way to go, I’m 51 and quite frankly, the thought of lugging my big, old, heavy rig around is putting me off joining any gigging band![/color] [color="#000000"]I bought a Markbass Minimark a few months ago and have decided that this, along with an extension cab, would be adequate for most gigs that I am ever likely to do. [/color] [color="#000000"]Now, here is my question. I have a plan in my head that involves using a wooden rack case that I bought ages ago from Maplin as the basis of a 2x6” cab. It’s exactly the same width as the Minimark, slightly deeper and a bit taller (when it’s stood on it’s end) and is carpet covered so looks pretty much like the amp. I’m wondering if this is a bad idea, the combo has 2x6” drivers, so another 2 in a cab that stacks 4 vertically is the plan. If so, does anybody know where I can get another pair of drivers the same as the ones in the Minimark? Or an alternative? Also, I have no idea about ports etc…..[/color] [color="#000000"]Any advice welcome, and thanks in advance![/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) MarkBass use B&C drivers. Blue Aran sell the 6" drivers for £90 a piece. You'll want to make sure the box dimensions & ports suit the drivers. http://www.bluearan.com/index.php?id=BAC6PS38&browsemode=manufacturer Edited December 27, 2013 by xgsjx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 The box isn't much bigger than the combo, just a few inches more height and depth. £90 each is not cheap, is it? But I suppose mixing brands isn't a good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If you like the sound you get from the Minimark, get the right drivers - would be a shame to spend only to find your sound has changed, but to one you don`t like, false economy and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 You could measure the internal dimensions of the Minimark & adjust the internals of the cab to suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Yes, I did think about moving the baffle and rear panel in a bit to reduce the volume to match the Minimark. Loz, would my knackered old ears really be able to tell the difference if I used Eminence drivers instead? Half the cost, 4ohms and available now, no 45 day wait like there is with the B&C's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) [quote name='4-string-thing' timestamp='1388235899' post='2319753'] Yes, I did think about moving the baffle and rear panel in a bit to reduce the volume to match the Minimark. Loz, would my knackered old ears really be able to tell the difference if I used Eminence drivers instead? Half the cost, 4ohms and available now, no 45 day wait like there is with the B&C's. [/quote] The dimensions of the minimark will have been calculated precisely to suit the specs of the drivers. You'd be doing well to recreate those dimensions as exactly as you can. Using different drivers would be unadvisable and you would also need to calculate what dimensions would be needed for the new drivers. Finally you need to wire them right. I'm guessing you want the 2nd cab to have an impedance of 8ohm if thats what the current one is so it's either two 16ohm drivers in parallel or two 4 ohm drivers in series. If you build it let's see some pics! Happy building. Edited December 28, 2013 by mrtcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yes, it needs to be 8ohms and it looks like nobody does a 6" 16ohm driver! Am I correct in thinking that 2 x 4ohms in series will only have half the power handling of 2 x 16ohms in parallel? (assuming they are all rated the same) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 [quote name='4-string-thing' timestamp='1388235899' post='2319753'] Yes, I did think about moving the baffle and rear panel in a bit to reduce the volume to match the Minimark. Loz, would my knackered old ears really be able to tell the difference if I used Eminence drivers instead? Half the cost, 4ohms and available now, no 45 day wait like there is with the B&C's. [/quote] Well I like Eminence speakers, but they do seem to have a "sound" to them - think Ampeg. To me they are creamier sounding than Markbass speakers, though assuming they work ok in the cab you intend putting them in this may work nicely and add a bit of warmth to the sound (assuming you like the warm sound that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I like Eminence too Lozz, I've had my Acoustic rig for over 30 years with Eminence drivers, and when I swapped them, I used Eminence Alpha 15's. I like the warm, old school sound, so perhaps they would be a better choice! At the end of the day, its just a small extension cab to get the full 250w from the Minimark and to raise it off the floor a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 You could make a small sub to go with the Minimark instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I already have a pair of 15" 8ohm subs that are small, fairly light and I did think about using one of them, but I fancy trying something a bit different. A 4x6 stacked vertically would be unusual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceH Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 As far as I'm aware Eminence don't do a 6" driver that's at all suitable for bass, certainly not in the same league as the expensive B&C models. Before you drop what would be a lot of money on some B&C drivers, it'd be worth checking that the OEM ones in your combo are actually the same as the ones available - those ones linked above are ceramics and relatively heavy. Does the minimark use those or something more akin to the neo versions here? http://www.bcspeakers.com/products/lf-driver-neo/6-5/6ndl38 They might even have a cheaper OEM-only model in which case it gets more complicated. A vertical 4x6 would be a nice rig but not a cheap way of getting to that sound level! Bear in mind also that Markbass seem to have updated the minimark to a 2x8 - might ultimately be a better way to go? From 6 to 8 inches is a lot more cone area. I'd also want to be sure that, if using a rack case, it was up to scratch as a speaker cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 The case is a pretty heavy duty wooden box, already carpet covered with a handle and corners fitted. It is also the exact same width (when on it's side) as the Minimark, so looks the part. Its a bit of an experiment, which is why I'm thinking about cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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