Nibody Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FENDER-SQUIER-PRECISION-BASS-GUITAR-SPARES-REPAIR-/360823222312?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5402bd7028"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FENDER-SQUIER-PRECISION-BASS-GUITAR-SPARES-REPAIR-/360823222312?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5402bd7028[/url] Im undecided! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameltoe Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Looks legit but does smell fishy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopsdabassist Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Why is it they are ALWAYS selling on behalf of a friend?? Dodgy if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I think it's kosher. The seller usually sells jumble sale tat. I've sent a message to say she's better off ending the auction, giving it a clean and maybe getting a local music shop to restring and test it. That way she's more likely to get top dollar for it. Whether she'll take my advice or not, I don't know.......probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameltoe Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 [quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1388269139' post='2320325'] Why is it they are ALWAYS selling on behalf of a friend?? Dodgy if you ask me. [/quote] Where does it say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfie Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 There seems to be a lot of JV Squiers around at the moment. Makes me worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 looks genuine, replacement scratchplate though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It's legit...... I've contacted her and she seems ok. Neck looks warped to me though. The scratchplate is not original..... Other than that it all seems to be above board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlonBass Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 [quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1388270924' post='2320355'] Where does it say that? [/quote] In the Q & A bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameltoe Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 [quote name='BigAlonBass' timestamp='1388306035' post='2320516'] In the Q & A bit. [/quote] Ahhh! Yes why are there so many JV's around at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Looks fine to me but I'm a bit worried about the condition of the neck. Judging by the way it looks it might have been stored in some shed or a basement along with some junk and I won't be surprised if the neck has developed a nice curve. It definitely doesn't look like a bedroom bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hand of john curley Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 How can you tell from the photos that the necks possibly warped? Not disputing it at all....just that I'm buggered if I can tell! I need your expert advices!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 [quote name='the hand of john curley' timestamp='1388334659' post='2320881'] How can you tell from the photos that the necks possibly warped? Not disputing it at all....just that I'm buggered if I can tell! I need your expert advices!! [/quote] Using an optical micrometer I measured the angle of incidence created by the shadow of the strings on the fretboard. I then divided this by the number of frets illustrated giving me a sloping gradient of .2ml/inch, this of course is not accounting for error of parallax which would possibly increase or decrease the factor depending on the viewing angle. 🍰 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 There's no reason to believe the neck's warped. There's also no reason to believe it's a scam, either, in fact I'm struggling to understand exactly how it could be a scam. The seller has masses of mostly-good feedback and clearly sells on Ebay all the time - they currently have 130+ items listed. Chances are, the bass' owner doesn't have an Ebay account and just happens to know this person. Thisn is a straight-up auction for a beat-up JV that's been in someone's loft for the last 20 years, and prior to that, has had a hard life of abuse & neglect like 99% of budget, second-best, throwaway cheap JapCrap instruments. It's always good to remind oneself how these instruments were seen in their day, and why it is they're so scarce now. Most of them will have been chucked in landfills decades ago. Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibody Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 [quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1388337111' post='2320919'] There's no reason to believe the neck's warped. There's also no reason to believe it's a scam, either, in fact I'm struggling to understand exactly how it could be a scam. The seller has masses of mostly-good feedback and clearly sells on Ebay all the time - they currently have 130+ items listed. Chances are, the bass' owner doesn't have an Ebay account and just happens to know this person. Thisn is a straight-up auction for a beat-up JV that's been in someone's loft for the last 20 years, and prior to that, has had a hard life of abuse & neglect like 99% of budget, second-best, throwaway cheap JapCrap instruments. It's always good to remind oneself how these instruments were seen in their day, and why it is they're so scarce now. Most of them will have been chucked in landfills decades ago. Jon. [/quote] In so far as an extremely brief check on the net would suggest to those uninformed that people are willing to pay well over the odds for a JV series Squier, so from someone who obviously sells a lot on Fleabay to show little knowledge, be selling it for a friend, etc etc just seems odd. So could it be it has serious issues, the seller is well aware what it is and is playing off people's wanting to get one cheap to sell on for a profit by playing dumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 [quote name='Nibody' timestamp='1388341667' post='2321004'] In so far as an extremely brief check on the net would suggest to those uninformed that people are willing to pay well over the odds for a JV series Squier, so from someone who obviously sells a lot on Fleabay to show little knowledge, be selling it for a friend, etc etc just seems odd. So could it be it has serious issues, the seller is well aware what it is and is playing off people's wanting to get one cheap to sell on for a profit by playing dumb? [/quote] I suppose it's possible I'm sure but a lot of people will pay serious money for a JV, whatever the condition. It's certainly true of other "rare" instruments - a few years back I sold the carcass of a 70s MIJ Rickenfaker - just the neck/body, top horn cut off, badly refinished, frets ripped out - for around £200, which was about £50 less than good, complete ones were going for at the time. It was pretty much useless and I was quite clear about that, but there was still a bidding war for it. Regarding this seller, I think it's likely that if they had an interest in or knowledge of musical instruments that would be reflected in their listings. This bass is the only instrument listed, and going back over their history, all I could find was a Fenix P/J bass sold for £103 back in August: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FENIX-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-BY-YOUNG-CHANG-/360715840538"]http://www.ebay.co.u...G-/360715840538[/url] The bass looks pretty tidy, the listing is about as informative as that for the JV, and £100-odd for one of these was a steal! J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It doesn't look like a scam to me and I think they are right to hold out if they are not sure of its value - given the condition - they also invite potential punters to come and have a look at it in the Q&A section. I'm tempted - could be a nice winter project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 [quote name='ash' timestamp='1388349974' post='2321147'] It doesn't look like a scam to me and I think they are right to hold out if they are not sure of its value - given the condition - they also invite potential punters to come and have a look at it in the Q&A section. I'm tempted - could be a nice winter project. [/quote] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I don't think it's a scam. If it were, would the seller tell potential buyers 'not to go mad with the bidding'? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hand of john curley Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='the boy' timestamp='1388335688' post='2320896'] Using an optical micrometer I measured the angle of incidence created by the shadow of the strings on the fretboard. I then divided this by the number of frets illustrated giving me a sloping gradient of .2ml/inch, this of course is not accounting for error of parallax which would possibly increase or decrease the factor depending on the viewing angle. 🍰 [/quote] Ah....splendid! I thought it looked a gnats cock away from being level....maybe the nut needed filing down and some wholly inappropriate pickup sticking in it.......hold on....you don't know my guitar restoring mate do you?....his names mark......???😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='the hand of john curley' timestamp='1388362410' post='2321310'] Ah....splendid! I thought it looked a gnats cock away from being level....maybe the nut needed filing down and some wholly inappropriate pickup sticking in it.......hold on....you don't know my guitar restoring mate do you?....his names mark......???😁 [/quote] Are you taking the mick...... I'm being deadly serious. It's an approved method used by master bodgers the world throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hand of john curley Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='the boy' timestamp='1388423623' post='2321827'] Are you taking the mick...... I'm being deadly serious. It's an approved method used by master bodgers the world throughout. [/quote] 😆😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacey Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Some bright spark has told them it is worth £1500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapbassSteve Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Looks legit to me. That said, there's a gorgeous JV '57RI for sale on here that still doesn't seem to be budging at £650, so with that in mind I'll be surprised if this goes for much more than the £190 it's at at time of writing this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1388354471' post='2321221'] .... would the seller tell potential buyers 'not to go mad with the bidding'? I think not. [/quote] Reverse psychology... the oldest trick in the book; added to which, if it does turn out to have problems, the seller can clearly show ebay that he tried to highlight to potential buyers that it had 'issues'! Not saying this is the case BUT his back is well and truly covered when/if greedy gits still end up bidding hundreds on this in the hope it is a hidden treasure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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