Mr Stinky Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm speaking as a relative newbie to playing live here. A friends band recently lost their bass player for a couple of weeks due to illness. To cover existing gigs, me and another guy are stepping in to help out as we know most of the set between us. We played on Saturday night and it went quite well as we'd never played together before. However, after one of my spots, this 'expert' player decided to give me a lecture about economy of motion and correct fingering, citing the E string run-up in Tush. This wasn't a couple of comments, this was a university thesis standard verbal essay. He went on and on almost pushing me to a 'swift and to the point verbal retort'. Is it really that important to use the correct fingering? My left pinky isn't that useful anyway due to a mis-spent youth, and how would you deal with this sort of character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Sounds like he,s a bit jealous of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Say thank you for your interest and find something to adjust/put away / re-tune/wipe down, anything to make your excuses and get away from guy , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigster Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Tell him you need to mingle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='Mr Stinky' timestamp='1388403482' post='2321504'] Is it really that important to use the correct fingering? [/quote] No, you can use any finger but just make sure you poke him in either eye with it then tell him to %^*& off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah thomas Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Unsolicited advice is rarely welcome. Smile, say 'excuse me' and go off to do something more interesting. Like going to the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Did you correct him on his feedback technique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) As someone who watched a lot of Pub Rock in London in the 70s i would have loved, no make that payed money to see anyone offer advice on how to play to The 101ers or The Stranglers. I can just see what Joe Strummer's reaction would have been to a bit of 'advice' and Hugh and JJ just standing there while someone told them of their musical shortcomings before they threw him through the pub doors. Edited December 30, 2013 by BetaFunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Lets face it. You're the one up on stage playing and he's the guy without a gig on a Saturday night. I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [size=3]Tush? You don't want to do it like that.[/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Daveo Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Thank him for the advice and ask him when he is playing wembley.. Or Ignorance is bliss, so ignore him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1388404525' post='2321530'] Lets face it. You're the one up on stage playing and he's the guy without a gig on a Saturday night. I wonder why? [/quote] That's always my philosophy now - slightly off topic but when I first started gigging there was, what I considered to be, an awesome bass player doing the rounds on our local circuit - whenever he came into the pub I'd often go to pieces for about 3 or 4 songs and then I'd settle down and avoid eye contact with said player at all costs. It always amazed me just how often he'd turn up to our gigs and after speaking to him he said he used to watch what/how I was playing and use the lines/fills in his band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='Mr Stinky' timestamp='1388403482' post='2321504'] Is it really that important to use the correct fingering? [/quote] Nope. That is: if you can comfortably play the stuff you want to play, and don't strain yer andromeda (or wha' evvah), then no. But the moment you hear or feel you have trouble with your timing - or other issues - then fingering can be a great tool rather than a nuisance. As an organist I'm used to choose fingering exactly depending on the effect I wanna reach - mostly the fingering that will most naturally result in the timing I was after anyway. I suppose much of that would go for bass too, but personally haven't needed it on my low E yet. [quote name='sarah thomas' timestamp='1388404126' post='2321522'] Unsolicited advice is rarely welcome. Smile, say 'excuse me' and go off to do something more interesting. Like going to the toilet. [/quote] My advice to you: quit giving him unsolicited advice!! (Sorry. Couldn't resist.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Just ask him: "If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1388408091' post='2321605'] Just ask him: "If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?" [/quote] ... and how come you ain't playing tonight! Alternatively: 'Please don't let let me keep you a moment longer from your urgent search for someone who gives a £$%^ what you think'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Id most likely tell the guy, sorry I cant take this on right now (after a gig in a crowd) and suggest getting together to have a session at someones house, if he follows up on this (which might be unlikely) then you may learn something in the correct setting to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='lojo' timestamp='1388409616' post='2321640'] Id most likely tell the guy, sorry I cant take this on right now (after a gig in a crowd) and suggest getting together to have a session at someones house, if he follows up on this (which might be unlikely) then you may learn something in the correct setting to do so. [/quote] ...and you'd get to see him in his latex gimp suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I think I banned him from BC last week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I think it is very important to have the correct fingering but that is for you to want to go down that path. As for the guy and the lecture... wasn't there anyone more interesting to want to talk to..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 tell him to go boil his nads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I woudl say 'It's Tush, man. It doesn't matter'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebass84 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Did you play the songs correctly? If you did then it's doesn't matter if you fret with your face! Playing the songs correct is more important than technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiMarco Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'd have ignored the crap out of him. That wasn't the time or the place to discuss technique. It WAS the time and place to be relaxed and have a couple of pints while enjoying the band. The question you should have asked him is this: IS THAT YOU MOM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1388404455' post='2321527'] Did you correct him on his feedback technique? [/quote] This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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