edoliveira Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'm looking to buy a new amp and I'm willing to choose one of these but without having how to play them and making my own decisions. What amp would you guys choose between these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehux Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I've just bought a new TTE500 from Thomann, as I missed out on a s/h one here and their price was only a bit more with a 3 year warranty.It arrived on Friday, so I've only had a short time with it and have been A/B'ing it with my Orange TB500. Volume wise, they can both demolish small villages. Soundwise, I feel that the TE has a more 'complex' sound. I've never used a compressor before, but adding a bit of it seemed to sharpen up the sound. Adding more and more gain puts a small amount of grit into the tone, without it breaking up suddenly like the TB does. I've had a Markbass LM2 and an F1 before now, and left the VLE control off, as it seemed to muddy the sound. On the TTE, the Colour control is supposed to be similar to VLE, and again, adding a bit of it seemed to enhance the sound. Full on, it did sound muddy and dull. Hope this is of use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesFlashG Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 if you have weight / size restrictions then the LM tubes are the way to go, although i think the TTE is still pretty light for the size, but thats because its not a full valve head right? I'm not to sure of the specs of it! I have a LM tube 800 and am so happy with its sound, I cannot compare to the TTE not heard one before, if your in london area PM me you can come and try it out sometime if you like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehux Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 The TTE is certainly light - about 14lb. It's a 4 valve preamp/compressor with an analogue solid state power amp. Sits nicely on my BF Super 12T - about the same width, but half the depth so it doesn't catch the handle on the top rear of the cab. It's covered in perforated metal grille, so you can see the valves and a load of small LEDs glowing nicely inside:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edoliveira Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks for your replies guys!! James, I appreciate your proposal, but since I am based in Portugal, it is not that easy to meet you.. My questions with these two models only have to do with the sound. I am used to play with Trace Elliott amps, so weight and size are no issues for sure. The cab I will use is a 4 Ohm Ashdown ABM 414T. Regarding the TTE, don't you think that the perforated metal grill might be an issue for the amp's safety since it is not even rack mountable? Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clauster Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 [quote]it is not even rack mountable [/quote] MB do sell rackmount ears for the TTE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edoliveira Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Really? Never heard of that... That solves a lot of problems regarding dust, spilled drinks or whatever... It's really food to know that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 [quote name='edoliveira' timestamp='1389040289' post='2329243'] It's really food to know that! [/quote] You're making me hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edoliveira Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 LOL!! Shame on me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Here they are: [url="http://www.markbass.it/product_detail.php?id=234"]http://www.markbass.it/product_detail.php?id=234[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edoliveira Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks Danny! Hasn't anyone ever A/B'd these machines..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehux Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 if you put it in a rack, you can't use it for warming that all important set break croisssant - and then where will you be when hunger strikes during the 3rd song of set 2?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 [quote name='davehux' timestamp='1389097433' post='2329796'] if you put it in a rack, you can't use it for warming that all important set break croisssant - and then where will you be when hunger strikes during the 3rd song of set 2?????? [/quote] This may be the next revolution in proffessional equipment! Add a stainless steel tray to your amp enclosure for that all-important grilled cheese sandwich or eggs over easy! Relax and enjoy while vocals and guitar quibble over who gets the blowdryer next! Croque Monsieur? Don't mind if I do says drums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The LM Tube does not do grind/overdrive/ distortion at all without clipping playing some part. It does do vintagey warmth well, and mine has been ultra reliable too, but the presence of a valve does not even give you a sniff of any tonal heat at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 If you want a more tube like tone, go for the TTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) The LM tube 500 and 800 are very different beasts too. By no means is the 800 merely an unrated 500. Many on TB seem to prefer the tone of the 500 with its analogue amplifier Edited January 8, 2014 by GreeneKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edoliveira Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Thank you guys!! I guess that if I choose the LMT that I'll be going for the 500W version. I think that I'll prefer an analogue power amp and frankly, 500W is more than enough for any stage. Edited January 8, 2014 by edoliveira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 If small and tubey is what you're after, it doesn't get much tubier than the Streamliner - I had a LMIII, then a RH450, then tried an awful lot of the smaller heads (LM Tube 500, GB Shuttles, Walkabout, etc) and ended up with one. They're a particularly voiced amp, but there's some bargains going around in GB stuff at the moment, so it may be worth taking a chance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edoliveira Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 " I had a LMIII, then a RH450, then tried an awful lot of the smaller heads (LM Tube 500, GB Shuttles, Walkabout, etc) and ended up with one." Do you really think the LM Tube 500 is that bad..? I have always thought that it would be like LM III but with the small valve improvement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I had a GB Streamliner that lasted a week, wooly & undefined mush. I've now got a Markbass Momark TA800 which I assume is similar to the LM Tube tone but with a single channel and a mute switch ..... gets my vote .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I had a Little Mark Tube 500 and it was great - the tube, as others have said doesn`t sound anything like tube gain, but it just rounds off the edges of the sound. I thought it was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 [quote name='edoliveira' timestamp='1389188252' post='2331034'] " I had a LMIII, then a RH450, then tried an awful lot of the smaller heads (LM Tube 500, GB Shuttles, Walkabout, etc) and ended up with one." Do you really think the LM Tube 500 is that bad..? I have always thought that it would be like LM III but with the small valve improvement... [/quote] I didn't think the LM Tube was different enough from the LM to make the permanent change - I thought the drive was fizzy and very off/on. The Streamliner's EQ catches a lot of people out (but again this does depend on the cab used, too - my Schroeder 1515L needs bass adding, but my BF Super 12 is far more accurate, and the bass needs to be attenuated) because as I said it's particularly voiced, which isn't everyone's taste, but it's very warm and tubey, and there's some great tube sounds there. I even preferred it to the Walkabout and the M-Pulse 600, which are great tubey amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handwired Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I've had both, and for vintage valve like tones the TTE wins hands down, but if you need more versitility go with the LMT you'll end up with a great amp whichever you choose, however the Genz Benz Streamliner beats them both and is available at an all time low price at the moment. Also, make sure your cab is up to the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I really want to try a TTE. I never got on with the Streamliner myself, sounded too gutless and compressed and was constantly fighting the EQ - the Orange Terror Bass wipes the floor with it IMHO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edoliveira Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Well, the cab is a 4 ohm Ashdown ABM 4*10. I firmly believe that will do the job. My previous amp was a Trace RAH 500 and the cab have always had a great behavior! Unfortunately, Trace's life has come to and end.. A really tragic ending, because the power section burned up and the repair is to expensive. Plus, there are no parts available for the amp anymore. I guess that everything has it's lifetime. And this amp sounded really good. It's a pity... I guess that regarding price and quality that I will get the LMT. Thank you so much for your opinions!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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