slingo Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I've just bought a VS112-150 cab on Ebay which was listed as a 1 x 15 cab which is a 200 watt cab. It's miles away and I can't be bothered with the hassle of complaining/returning etc. So what output amp can I get away with (it doesn't have to be Ashdown), or should I just re-sell it and get something else? I know I could use it as an extension cab, but I just wanted a small rig with a head and one cab. Any advice would be great :-) thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randythoades Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) I have the Ashdown VS112 and the VS212. I prefer the 112 and use it with Gallien Kreuger MB200 and it sounds good. There is a lot of bass available for a 112. I also use the Ashdown little giant 1000 which i know doesn't get much love but works well with these cabs, i plug both in, although i don't max it. I did have the Ashdown ABM500 which didn't work so well, and also a Trace Elliot AH250 (i think that was the model anyway) which didn't work so well either. The cabs seem to suit a more vintage style than a modern hifi style and i like the look. You will get the hump with the top handle though, it is massive and your head will not sit on it nicely! The cab is 8 ohm so you should be able to handle a 350 or 400 watt amp at 4 ohm. Edited January 19, 2014 by randythoades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slingo Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 The handle has been relocated to the side so that's not an issue, I know the output is less into 8 ohms but won't the amps you've mentioned still be too powerful for a 150 w cab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randythoades Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) As far as i know, you can almost half the output when going from a 4 ohm load to an 8ohm load. My cab speaker is listed as 200w so should be ok with an 8 ohm load of 200w coming from a head pushing 350-400w at 4ohm. Depends if you really crank it. My 1000w is actually 2x 500w outputs at 4ohms so it should be pushing out anywhere between 250-300w per channel but i have never got near needing to max it. In theory, you could run 1000+ watt head into it if you don't push the volume above halfway, which should be more than adequate for most pub gigs. Just add a second cab if you need to use more than 200w. Or change the speaker for something like an Eminence Deltalite (which i am considering on my 112) which will give you a more efficient speaker (and more volume for the same wattage) and up the spec to 400w at 8ohms... Edited January 19, 2014 by randythoades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slingo Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 So a 200w head would be ok then? I think I've read a spec somewhere that a 200w head pushes out 120w into 8 ohms so that would be ok then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) It was already said above, but in different wording: The volume knob decides how much noise (Watt) the amp puts out. With the exception of extreme cases, you can easily connect a 2,000 W amp to a VS112, at the cost of having to be careful with the volume knob. Also, because of the inner workings of speaker elements, it is not so that 2,000 W will move the speaker cone 10 times as much as 200 W - far from it. There's physical laws there that I don't remember, but maybe someone can chime in there. I seem to remember that logarithmic scales are oncorporated here - not sure though. It's a different theme altogether really, but in similar fashion 2,000 W will give noise that sounds only twice as loud to the human ear as the noise put out by 200 W. So, using a 2,000 W amp mostly means you have to be careful with turning the volume knob. In some cases it would mean you can hardly move it. Edited January 20, 2014 by BassTractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slingo Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Ok thanks I get it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Great! Now, as it happens, I have this 2,000 W amp for sale that fits the VS112 perfectly! (Only kidding!) Good luck with the project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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