alhbass Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I've recently had to sell one of my two markBass cabs - the plan is to replace with Barefaced in due course, but money's very tight at the moment, so for now I'm trying to make do with a reduced rig. Simple question then - which combination, in theory, should give me more volume when gigging? - 300w (@ 8 Ohms) LMK amp through a single New York 604 cab (8 ohm), or my MiniMark combo, which delivers 250w if I use it with the NY604 as an extension? So 300w driving four 6" cones, or 250w driving six 6" cones? Love to hear the BC wisdom.... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 In theory you should get more perceived volume from a larger number of drivers, so 250W/six drivers. I'm expecting some disagreement on this! Why not run both and see which appears to be the loudest? Of course you could just get your bandmates to turn down a bit, thus giving you more headroom with either rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 There's a Compact in the For Sale section. I reckon that would cover 2 Markbass cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alhbass Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks for your reply. i've tried both in gigging situations, and to be honest i'm not sure about the difference. There are so many variables of acoustic and placement and PA etc etc from one gig to the next - I used to find that when playing with my full rig anyway (doesn't everyone?) - so I just wanted to know which in theory should serve me better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alhbass Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1391686056' post='2360090'] There's a Compact in the For Sale section. I reckon that would cover 2 Markbass cabs. [/quote] I know. I've been in touch. Sadly there isn't the necessary balance in my bank account though! If someone would buy my second 604 I'd be there like a shot... Thanks anwyay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think the LMK would sound best. The MiniMark is a small box so I don't think it would be big enough to be heard over the extension cab. Have you tried them on a gig yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alhbass Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1391685499' post='2360076'] Of course you could just get your bandmates to turn down a bit, thus giving you more headroom with either rig. [/quote] Ha ha! As if.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJ Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Whichever one you decide to use, think about placement on the stage. The boundary reinforcement (i think that's the correct term) from placing your amp close to a wall or in a corner can make a small rig 'sound' massive compared to the same rig sat in the middle of the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 [quote name='JPJ' timestamp='1391696034' post='2360290'] Whichever one you decide to use, think about placement on the stage. The boundary reinforcement (i think that's the correct term) from placing your amp close to a wall or in a corner can make a small rig 'sound' massive compared to the same rig sat in the middle of the stage. [/quote] Great advice this. I do that with my EA & Midget whenever I can. Works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 [quote name='JPJ' timestamp='1391696034' post='2360290'] Whichever one you decide to use, think about placement on the stage. The boundary reinforcement (i think that's the correct term) from placing your amp close to a wall or in a corner can make a small rig 'sound' massive compared to the same rig sat in the middle of the stage. [/quote] And your EQ! I know this is a bit like teaching your granny to suck eggs (whatever that means!), but cutting the bass and adding more "midrange"* can massively improve your audibility. *Yes, I know that the range of middle fequencies is very large and that adjusting even a narrow range of them can have a huge effect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcro Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 In theory it's the latter - 250 watts into 6 cones. However it's not the watts that count, it's the sensitivity of the speaker boxes or speakers in the combo. The Minimark 2x6 combo has a [u]claimed[/u] sensitivity of 101dB per 1 watt input. If you add that to the 604 cab which has a claimed sensitivity of 100dB then IN THEORY you should get 103+. (I've forgotten how to do the fiddly maths to give an exact theoretical result - it could be 103.1 or 103 .2, something like that ). Meanwhile the LMK into the 604 is set at the 100dB sensitivity of the 604. The extra 50watts won't make up the 3dB difference. Balcro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alhbass Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 [quote name='Balcro' timestamp='1392385171' post='2368002'] In theory it's the latter - 250 watts into 6 cones. However it's not the watts that count, it's the sensitivity of the speaker boxes or speakers in the combo. The Minimark 2x6 combo has a [u]claimed[/u] sensitivity of 101dB per 1 watt input. If you add that to the 604 cab which has a claimed sensitivity of 100dB then IN THEORY you should get 103+. (I've forgotten how to do the fiddly maths to give an exact theoretical result - it could be 103.1 or 103 .2, something like that ). Meanwhile the LMK into the 604 is set at the 100dB sensitivity of the 604. The extra 50watts won't make up the 3dB difference. Balcro. [/quote] Thanks! All being well this question will soon just be of academic interest though, as I hope to be getting my hands on a Barefaced Compact shortly. But it's all good to know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japhet Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Could you DI into the PA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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