bonnp Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hi, i have bought a p bass body (mexican) including gotoh bridge. What pick ups would be best to "try" and create the early stranglers sound? passive active , make etc also what else do i need, wring harness plus any recommendations for a neck? original fender or similar? i like the rotosound 66 110s i have on my musicman so will probably buy the same. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Neck-wise I`d go for a Mighty Mite maple Precision - they`re reputed to be of very good quality, and maple - to me - has that "zing" in the upper mids, a sort of creaminess to it, that rosewood doesn`t have. I doubt I`d notice it in the mix, but all of my maple necked Precisions have had that, whereas none of the rosewood ones have. Pickup wise, well having just bought a Dimarzio DP122 for my Squier Precision, this more than handles that early punk vibe. Plenty of lows and mids, not too much treble on it so you`d have to boost the highs on the amp - which is what JJ did I believe - and the mid-focus of the pickup will enable it to breakup into that great driven distorted sound he had. JJs Precisions were passive, and as much of the sound came from his attack as anything, hit the strings to get the drive. And pretty much spot on with strings, JJ was/is a Roto Steel 66 user - not sure which gauge though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnp Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 thx lozz for taking the time to reply, thats some really interesting stuff i will look at. having to build a p bass so the Mrs does not give me grief for buying another guitar, but from what i hear the p bass and musicman have totally different sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Yes they`re very different. Both great, but different. It is possible to get a good JJ sound from a `Ray though. I just used to turn the treble right down, and the mids right up on the bass, then adjust the eq on the amp to suit. Not exactly there, but not too far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3below Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Based on my Kramer - [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Dimarzio DP122 or based on my G&L SB1, if you can source one, G&L MFD P bass type. Both of these seem to have high output, no shortage of bass n treble and plenty of punch. [/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnp Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 cheers, will have a look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) I'd agree with Lozz, the DP122 is hot and barky enough to do the job. I've built several basses with the maple Mighty Mite necks (Precision and Jazz) and they're a great neck for the money. One of the big factors in JJB's early sound is lots and lots of compression, if you're serious about getting really close, then a pedal compressor is what you need, too. Passive EQ using CTS pots, or contact KiOgon on here, he'll do you a great, easy-to-fit prewired loom for very little money. Edited February 18, 2014 by Muzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnp Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 thanks guys, just looked at the [b]DiMarzio DP122 and looks the business and i will contact KIOgon ,[/b][b]do u have to import the mighty mite necks? or can u buy in UK, last daft question is will i be able to play through my roland cube 30 bass amp (practice amp) and use the effects or would u advise a diffrerent amp set up?[/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi, I got my Mighty Mite necks from EBay, there's a couple of sellers who pop up now and again. If it's the P-width neck you're after, it's the MM2909. The amp setup depends on a lot of things, like how loud do you want to be, what's your budget, etc - in an ideal world to get that sound I'd choose an all-valve head like an SVT or Orange, and a big old sealed cab like an 810, and a good compressor, but that'd be a couple of grand to set up, and I'd never be able to move it! The Cube 30's got a compressor on board, you could have a play with that, bear in mind that iconic sound will have been the result of lots of work in the studio, with driven valve amps, studio compression and lots of other factors. Trying to get there's half the fun though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The Seymour Duncan SPB-4 Steve Harris sig pup might do the business fairly well methinks. I fitted one yesterday and played it straight to the jack as I don't have a scratch plate at the moment (it's away as a pattern for a tort replacement). It sounded quite 'low middy' which is exactly what I expected. It sounded rather nice too Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 What pickups did JJ use though? Probably original Fender? If so, that would be what you need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 In all likelyhood yes, a standard 70s Precision. Plus a great deal of the sound was from using a guitar amp and guitar 412 cab (with blown cones I believe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 [quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1392804927' post='2372857'] The Seymour Duncan SPB-4 Steve Harris sig pup might do the business fairly well methinks. I fitted one yesterday and played it straight to the jack as I don't have a scratch plate at the moment (it's away as a pattern for a tort replacement). It sounded quite 'low middy' which is exactly what I expected. It sounded rather nice too Peter [/quote] Didn't have you down as a Harris fan Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 [quote name='sk8' timestamp='1392834619' post='2373307'] Didn't have you down as a Harris fan Peter [/quote] Our drummer is the Iron Maiden nut and I've been listening to a bit. I really wanted a P bass with low mids innate. This seems to give it. I jury rigged the harness today and was mightily impressed. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1392826727' post='2373190'] In all likelyhood yes, a standard 70s Precision. Plus a great deal of the sound was from using a guitar amp and guitar 412 cab (with blown cones I believe). [/quote] That's it. 70s P pups are naturally scooped, or at least the one on my 70s P certainly was. You'll have to blow your own cones, though. Not a euphemism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnp Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 thanks for the advice guys, looking forward to setting up the bass with your recommendations, i will post the finished article, although i might try and get a diff amp to blast through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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