tayste_2000 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 I'm looking for a powered PA cab for bass, for use with my modeling rig, also generally PA cabs are lighter than similarly powered combos and have all those handy handles all over them. My requirements 500+ watts Pull out handle Tilt back wheels Sub 25kgs (ideally sub 15kgs) 1x12 or 1x15 Hardwearing enough that I can just lug it everywhere like walk a mile dragging it on its wheels Neutral or bass heavy sounding So options? Quote
Dood Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Gimme a chance chap - interestingly I find myself with a similar dilemma and am hoping to share some of my findings. I've a Matrix power amplifier which is superb and have been thinking of ways to strap it to a 'monitor' style cabinet for a while. I guess I need to ask Matrix if their 'FRFR' cabinets are suitable for bass! (With a view to modelling both guitar and bass depending on gig) Quote
tayste_2000 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=4217 Hmmm Quote
sk8 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 [quote name='tayste_2000' timestamp='1392920803' post='2374268'] As helpful as ever Dood [/quote] Quote
Dood Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 [quote name='tayste_2000' timestamp='1392922001' post='2374296'] Ok I forgive you [/quote] You know I always bring ya the good answers Quote
LukeFRC Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Have you seen the thread I started about using PA gear- the guys with a bit of knowledge chimed in with some suggestions. When I was looking at it I kept seeing the cheaper LD systems Stinger stuff at good prices - I think two of the 15inch ones were £500, they had Kappalite 3015HO in them - I had half a plan to use one and meanwhile remake the other one as a bass cab with a lower response using the charts on Eminence's website... Quote
Dood Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1392928948' post='2374434'] Have you seen the thread I started about using PA gear- the guys with a bit of knowledge chimed in with some suggestions. When I was looking at it I kept seeing the cheaper LD systems Stinger stuff at good prices - I think two of the 15inch ones were £500, they had Kappalite 3015HO in them - I had half a plan to use one and meanwhile remake the other one as a bass cab with a lower response using the charts on Eminence's website... [/quote] Hmm! Interesting! I was also thinking about a Greenboy Fearful/Fearless type build adjusted to house a power amp module or have a 'head case' type design so that an amp head could be fixed. Quote
LukeFRC Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 [quote name='dood' timestamp='1392931549' post='2374498'] Hmm! Interesting! I was also thinking about a Greenboy Fearful/Fearless type build adjusted to house a power amp module or have a 'head case' type design so that an amp head could be fixed. [/quote] was it you that had used a wee class D module in a cab in the past? I thought it was. I was thinking about a Fearful 12/6/1 build, RichardD has some super light 12mm ply and it was all great till I costed it up. Decided to pay less and get more weight with a secondhand ACME B2 I think the ultimate would be a Powersoft Digimod 500 with DSP into a high end bass cab and then programme the DSP to get the most out of it. But I think that's just one of Jim Bergantino's IP range, which is what I would like to have had... Quote
LukeFRC Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 The Roland D-Bass range is also interesting and ticked enough of the boxes for me to try out. I ultimately am moving it on as it doesn't fit in the back of the car with the castors on and I don't like the amp modelling. A pod into the effects return and it would be quite a versatile DSP equipped little amp. Quote
Owen Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 The module in the Berg IP is not a Powersoft one. If only IP came in neo! Quote
LukeFRC Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 [quote name='owen' timestamp='1392934533' post='2374552'] The module in the Berg IP is not a Powersoft one. If only IP came in neo! [/quote] my bad, I'ld heard it was. Quote
Dood Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1392933727' post='2374532'] was it you that had used a wee class D module in a cab in the past? I thought it was. I was thinking about a Fearful 12/6/1 build, RichardD has some super light 12mm ply and it was all great till I costed it up. Decided to pay less and get more weight with a secondhand ACME B2 I think the ultimate would be a Powersoft Digimod 500 with DSP into a high end bass cab and then programme the DSP to get the most out of it. But I think that's just one of Jim Bergantino's IP range, which is what I would like to have had... [/quote] Yes it was! I had a BK Electronics D Class module - 600W that I sold on to a fellow basschatter who as far as I know is still using it now! Quote
Dood Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 I've had a response back from Matrix and they've been really helpful. They suggested that the FRFR 2x12 cab they have on offer at the moment has a roll off of 55hz so could 'do' bass - certainly four string, but they are possibly looking at a bass guitar solution in 2x10 or 1x15" format. There's nothing available specifically at the moment though so the options are limited. My driver for this is actually wanting a FRFR solution that can do everything from PA to guitar to Bass in one lightweight powerful box. The only downside is that such a solution comes at great cost. So the idea stays in my head for a bit longer lol! Quote
Dood Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1392934298' post='2374547'] The Roland D-Bass range is also interesting and ticked enough of the boxes for me to try out. I ultimately am moving it on as it doesn't fit in the back of the car with the castors on and I don't like the amp modelling. A pod into the effects return and it would be quite a versatile DSP equipped little amp. [/quote] Hmm! interesting! - I played a gig through a Roland keyboard amp once and was really surprised at how incredibly full it sounded. Ok, we weren't a loud band but this little box that looked like it was possible an 80's model (??) sounded superb! Quote
Dood Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Oh sorry, it's 'Full Range Flat Response'. (Obviously before it gets jumped on, that's a a theoretical endeavour, not a physics absolute lol lol) Quote
tayste_2000 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Posted February 21, 2014 Urgh full range, can't I get loads and loads of high end roll off please Quote
Dood Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 ah sorry, I didn't see the 'bass heavy' bit at the top! Must pay more attention. heh! Quote
tayste_2000 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Posted February 21, 2014 Well, I can probably use the modellers to get what I want but I don't need super clean hifi or at least I don't think I do Quote
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