ezbass Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I've had Schallers, Dunlop and all sorts of other devices, what do I use now? Beer bottle washers (mine are Grolsch) super secure, no rattling, squeaking, falling apart (Schallers) or forgetting the strap with the locks on. http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/grolsch-washers.html if you don't drink beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I never take the straps off my basses. I had a strap break once, so I now carry a lok-less strap in the accessories bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have always used Dunlop strap locks. Never let me down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 [quote name='ead' timestamp='1394199186' post='2389074'] +1 for Dunlops in metal form. [/quote] So they are the best straplocks for metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) [quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1394217765' post='2389309'] I hate the way they rattle when sitting down with no tension on the strap, Dunlops and Schallers. The Grolsch/showerhead washers don't do that. [/quote] I can't see any point have the strap attached when you're sitting down. Edited March 9, 2014 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerstodge Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 There are some straplocks (not mine) for sale in other musically related on here, schallers i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1394385991' post='2390880'] I can't see any point have the strap attached when you're sitting down. [/quote] You would if you used the Grolsch tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1394372439' post='2390743'] The red Grolsch ones are excellent but I don't use them because (yes this is very sad) they're a bit too.... well... red! I use one of the Dunlop ones on one of my basses which took FOREVER to put on, and the rest are all 'naked'. I'd love to find out where to get some black ones without paying far too much for some that say 'Fender' on them [/quote] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-BLACK-new-Washers-for-Swing-Top-Grolsch-Bottle-/281275947130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 [quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1394227751' post='2389443'] I use these. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/dunlop_straplok_ergo_lok.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...ok_ergo_lok.htm[/url] Really cheap, non-permanent so don't muck up the spec of the bass (or guitar). I bought a dozen or so sets aaaaages ago. [/quote] I got 3 sets of these for £1 ages ago - I don't trust them though having had one "pop" on me and me nearly dropping my bass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1394393532' post='2390989'] You would if you used the Grolsch tops. [/quote] TBH I never play sitting down. All my important playing is done standing up on stage, so that's how I practice - standing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I've already voted Grolsch washers, but i just realised my Warwick has Dunlop button locks. The bass is 22 years old and still going very strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswareham Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1394393574' post='2390991'] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-BLACK-new-Washers-for-Swing-Top-Grolsch-Bottle-/281275947130"]http://www.ebay.co.u...e-/281275947130[/url] [/quote] And to quote from the listing: "[size="2"][font="Arial"]Now for you[u][b] gui[/b][/u][size="2"][u][b]tar[/b][/u][size="2"][u][b] players[/b][/u] out there [size="2"]i have been told that these make excellent guitar strap lock"[/size][/size][/size][/font][/size] [size="2"][font="Arial"][size="2"][size="2"][size="2"] [/size][/size][/size][/font][/size][size="2"][font="Arial"][size="2"][size="2"] [/size][/size][/font][/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Dunlop Dual Design for me, though i could get away with the grolsh washers as each bass has its own strap. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorsetBlue Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Every guitar and bass I have (other than the acoustic) have Schallers fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 i have the schallers fitted to all of my instruments with the exception of the acoustic guitars (as they have end pin jacks) and the aria cardinal bass (as the upper horn shape won't allow them to fit) so i've got grolsh washers on those, i've actually got more instruments with schaller buttons on than i have straps with the other halves, but i've got about 6 straps with the straplocks on so i just grab whichever one i feel like using for that session. (got them on a hook next to the instrument rack.) and i've got a couple of spare sets of the buttons in a box just in case i "accidentally" buy another bass! Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1394393574' post='2390991'] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-BLACK-new-Washers-for-Swing-Top-Grolsch-Bottle-/281275947130"]http://www.ebay.co.u...e-/281275947130[/url] [/quote] Legend, thanks! hooray for black Grolsch washers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 [quote name='ratman' timestamp='1394190287' post='2388889'] ...... As a quick fix, the rubber washer from a Grolsch bottle do a fair job too. [/quote] A guitarist pal of mine uses these Swears by them - never seen him drop his guitar either Useful tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 [quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1394222313' post='2389384'] As I've mentioned previously on this topic; when using Schallers as intended, you have metal against metal. Although I know some have used them for many years with no problem, I have had a strap button sheer off as a result of this friction. I now keep the strap locks loose, attach the strap to the bass, then clip the strap locks on. Thus, the weight of the bass is on the leather of the strap and the strap locks still keep it on. [/quote] Maybe an ArthurHenry further back in your family tree said 'why don't we slice the bread before we put it in the bag'. Mate - that's the best tip I've gleaned in a long time , like all good tips it's simple and leaves you wondering how on earth you didn't think of it yourself. I shall put it into practise at once. Plus it solves my only concern about my Dunlops which is that the stress points when using them in the conventional way are too far away from the body. Like holding a breeze block at arms length rather than close to your body. The same issue creates the problem of the lead being too slack to do it's intended job of lessening the stress on the jack and socket when passed through a strap with Dunlops on. It doesn't get 'trapped' by the strap. Your tip would solve that too. Should we ever meet I'll be buying you a pint , my friend , for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 [quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1394222313' post='2389384'] As I've mentioned previously on this topic; when using Schallers as intended, you have metal against metal. Although I know some have used them for many years with no problem, I have had a strap button sheer off as a result of this friction. I now keep the strap locks loose, attach the strap to the bass, then clip the strap locks on. Thus, the weight of the bass is on the leather of the strap and the strap locks still keep it on. [/quote] did the actual strap button break? or the screw that holds it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 I dont like the way the Schallers have to be permanently attached to the strap. This means the strap is now usless for other guitars shoild you need to swap. The Fender ones although quite bulky let you use different staps as and when you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1394531204' post='2392196'] I dont like the way the Schallers have to be permanently attached to the strap. This means the strap is now usless for other guitars shoild you need to swap. [/quote] If all guitars have strap locks on them then it's not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyKnees Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 [quote name='ped' timestamp='1394191400' post='2388905'] These are my fave. They're more pleasing than the Schaller type and they feel safer, to me anyway. [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmi&field-keywords=marvel%20straplocks"]http://www.amazon.co...el%20straplocks[/url] [/quote] Another vote for these... best I've used, nice and solid with nifty ball multiple ball bearing mechanism to lock it onto the button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 [quote name='Bolo' timestamp='1394267702' post='2389649'] 4 euro and still no beer?! [/quote] That was until my donkey ran out of petrol though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I just ordered 20 Grolsch washers in BLACK for a fiver. Cheers Musky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchfieldrelic Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Those of you who use Schaller strap locks, do you just tighten the nut on the strap, or do you also use thread lock to prevent the nut from losening? I notice that Locktite make several types of thread lock and wondered which one was most commonly used by Basschatters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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