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I cut a string too short, but found a solution!!!!!!


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So, one of my bass strings snapped, so i got a new set to put on them, dunlops i think. But anyway, alls well, ive cut the strings, wound them on, then i start tuning them. E tunes fine, A tunes fine, then i get to the D. As i tune it, im winding the machinehead, and the note is staying the same. I look up, and the string is pulling out of the machinehead as i wind it. Basically the string is under too much tension before it can properly grip the tuning post.

So i look up what to do if i make it too short online, and i come across this thread on talkbass: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f16/cut-my-d-string-too-short-193490/"]http://www.talkbass....o-short-193490/[/url]

Basically, one poster mentions that he uses a sheep bend with an old string!!! Like thie picture below shows.



Im skeptical, but i tried it, and lo and behold....



It works. As i tuned it up, i saw the knot tighten, and now it seems to be holding. Im made up as i was quite annoyed when this happened. But so far it seems like its working, and from a few responses on talkbass, it seems to hold really well. Ill probably buy a new D string, but for now, i think its alright hahahaha.

So thanks, internet. And i posted this to let more people know that there is something they can do!

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It's an interesting fix, but since I saw one of our guitarist's strings break and go straight through his finger I've been super-careful where strings are concerned - even though bass strings are lower tension. Just one of those things I get squeamish about, like, er... snoods. Or nipple-rings. There, I've said it.

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[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1396009409' post='2408945']
Nice hack! Fingers crossed it doesn't snap and take your eye out!
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Heh, that's what I was thinking. I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my playing, for sure.

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haha. Im not to worried about string snappage. my string snapped as i was playing it, and it just went loose, no massive fling in the air, just the core snap, so the windings held it pretty much in place.

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thats awesome - i just [s]totally screwed up a cheap set[/s] made an innocent mistake by cutting wrongly on an A string.

[size=5]Top tip[/size]

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It's the kind of knot that works better the more pressure it has on it. I know it's not on the speaking length of the string but does it not effect the sound of the string?

A guitar shop I used to work in had a bloke come in one day screaming and ranting that he was going to sue the shop owner. His son had bought a set of bass strings and when he tried fitting them he over wound by an octave. The E string broke and went right through his cheek!

I have never had a string break like that, in fact I have only ever had a couple break at all, but normally it's just the core that goes and the winds keep it from flying about.

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[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1396009409' post='2408945']
Nice hack! Fingers crossed it doesn't snap and take your eye out!
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The knot will never snap...it's a sheep bend and is perfect for this type of application.

Trust me I am an old sea dog!

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[quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1396013250' post='2409021']
It's the kind of knot that works better the more pressure it has on it. I know it's not on the speaking length of the string but does it not effect the sound of the string?

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Well, ive been playing on it all day, and i cant say it does affect the sound. I love a fresh set of bass strings.

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[quote name='tommorichards' timestamp='1396111259' post='2410059']
Its the vintage reissue series, V96. Sounds exactly like a jazz should.


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Nice - I do like the Vintage stuff, although my Vintage 'ray copy needed a change of preamp to sound anything ray like. I like the idea of their Precision copy the v4.

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Buy new strings man. You can get cheap sets on ebay. I would never repair a short string. The hassle involved is too much for me :unsure:

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[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1396116595' post='2410136']
Buy new strings man. You can get cheap sets on ebay. I would never repair a short string. The hassle involved is too much for me :unsure:
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This.

And they say us Jocks are tight. Just change it.

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[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1396116595' post='2410136']
Buy new strings man. You can get cheap sets on ebay. I would never repair a short string. The hassle involved is too much for me :unsure:
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to be honest, the hassle involved in tying a knot is much simpler than purchasing an entire new set of strings and waiting for them to arrive. Ill see how long this holds out for haha

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[quote name='tommorichards' timestamp='1396134229' post='2410384']
to be honest, the hassle involved in tying a knot is much simpler than purchasing an entire new set of strings and waiting for them to arrive. Ill see how long this holds out for haha
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Rather you than me. I'd find it like the Sword of Damocles hanging over my head. :)

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I don't see the problem if it doesn't effect sound. Why waste a string if it actually works? Unless I was having to use it live and it was my only Bass, then I would be more inclined to replace it, if I had the money, probably best not to tempt fate when there are band members and an audience to please.

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When i started out and skint i relied on these repairs, even gigged with them. I had no choice, times were too hard to think of a new set, plus a long bus ride to the nearest shop, new strings were birthday or christmas materials. A great way out of a spot. I'm a tad more selective these days.

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[quote name='White Cloud' timestamp='1396026309' post='2409221']
The knot will never snap...it's a sheep bend and is perfect for this type of application.
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It's actually a sheet bend, with a 't'. For bending two sheets together.

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[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1396134348' post='2410385']
Rather you than me. I'd find it like the Sword of Damocles hanging over my head. :)
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Some of us like having the Sword Of Damocles hanging over our heads. It's a good icebreaker at parties.

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[Dons golden underpants and starts singing/squawking]

The sword of Damocles is hanging over my head
And I've got the feeling someone's gonna be cutting the thread
Oh, woe is me, my life is a misery
Oh, can't you see that I'm at the start of a pretty big downer!?

[shuts up]

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[quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1396202011' post='2410926']
[Dons golden underpants and starts singing/squawking]

The sword of Damocles is hanging over my head
And I've got the feeling someone's gonna be cutting the thread
Oh, woe is me, my life is a misery
Oh, can't you see that I'm at the start of a pretty big downer!?
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That's... nice.

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